Server Update 16.07.2024

Things like the F16A would fight against F4ICE, that is the maximum I would accept for a uptier.
BR 13.0 to 13.7 need to be further decompressed, they did not do anything to address that in this update.

Bro, you’re making it up. One jet is worse than the other in all its aspects. According to all the laws of logic, he should get the BR below. Your point of view is too subjective

I took my beloved Mig-29 for a spin and got spammed by R-darters and AIM-120s.

That plane has 4 R-60ms and 2 R-27ERs.

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If I follow this logic then eventually you’d get something like the F104A.
What we really need it to uptier all F5s, since the F5C was overperforming at 10.3.
I do agree F5A/C and E at the same BR is nonsense tho.

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My Belgian F-16A is going to be really enjoyable to play now that its only one BR step below ARH platforms…
Time to fight against 8 AMRAAM launching planes when all I have is 6 short range heatseakers.
Also which clown decided that the Mirage 2000D deserves the same BR as the Mirage 2000C?
It doesn’t have an internal gun or SARH missiles, but it shares the same BR because it’s equal?

Damn these BR changes pretty mediocre

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Is there any reason J-7E remains at 11.0 while J35XS is somewhat 11.3 😂
And I think Tomcats need to go 0.3 higher

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Kurnass 2000 still got 1 full BR up. I don’t think it will be competitive against bunch of strong Fox-1 and Fox-3 missiles while having only IR missiles.

My friend literally grinded JAS39C with JAS39A
Holy smoke, imagine Skyflash vs AMRAAM
Respect to him
He has 8000hrs on steam record alone tho

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These two swap, problem solved.
What a bullcrap on this btw.

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mind explaining this then?

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So for a more constructive criticism now
i’ll list some of the most bleeding cases in my opinion

Su-25 → going to 10.3 just makes it worse and more vulnerable to stronger fighters while keeping the same performance, the right way to balance this plane would be to downgrade its R-60M to R-60 and put it at 10.0 so it cant abuse all aspect vs no flares (which it can still do on a full downtier, great work guys!)

Same with the Su-25K

Su-17M2 → 10.7, no flares, only rear aspect missiles… why do you hate this plane so much gaijin? it was already one of the more vulnerable strike aircraft at its br brackets now its even worse for no reason

MiG-21 variants → the 21’s are beasts when it comes to raw performance but their armaments does not grant a br increase because you know, 4xR-60 which are very flare hungry, are only rear aspect and an arguably bad belly mounted gun with low bullet speed on a plane that loses all its speed on a slight turn

MiG-21bis variants → these will just get clubbed even harder by BVR and planes with better missiles simply because the mig 21 is a missile bus, if you put a missile bus vs faster and better equipped planes all you get is sadness and tears

A-10A/Late → same with the Su-25, plane is bad, missiles are too strong for its br and will still see flareless planes on a downtier (great job again!)

A-6E TRAM → same story but not as bad because 10.7 but… congratulations! you made a very slow and vulnerable plane face even stronger fighters that will run circles around it
and it can still sometimes face flareless planes on a downtier

TL;DR stop moving compression around and actually fix it cough cough 20.0 cough cough
Also stop giving slow strike aircraft ridiculously strong missiles and low br
instead give them worse missiles but a proper br so they arent either clubbing flareless planes or being free food for fighters

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It’d be absolutely fine at 10.0 if it had CM pods or as-is at ~9.7, there’s no point in powercreeping the everliving shit out of a very old plane

I need countermeasures pod for F-4C if change to 10.7 BR, but not forgot AIM-7E Sparrow

Did those exist?

It was perfectly fine at 10.0 or even 10.3 as it is.
I don’t understand how it’s gonna survive Magic 2 and R73 at 10.7

i still think my variant would be much much better but who will listen lol

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I saw yours, but A big difference is Gaijin was effectively decompressing 11.0-11.3 while yours are focused on top tier.
Both of these need changes, we definitely need a gap between F4E and F4S. If anything I’d rather have the F4S go away from 11.3/7 so that BR between 10.0 to 11.0 will be rather more enjoyable to play.
So that I don’t have to get smacked in my mirage 3E by a sparrow F

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Yep

We’re also missing all of Sparrow 1 and 2, as well as the Falcon family.

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The problem is not that the F-4C is too high, no. The problem is the Su-39 is too low. They decompressed = good. They did not decompress nearly enough. By now we should have had at least BR 15.0. At least! I am sorry, but the F-4C, flares or not, does not belong below 11.0.

Bruh I can’t imagine something worse than Aim7C
good luck with an A2G missile that pretends to be an AA missile

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