And yet videos exist of loaders reloading a 120mm sustained in about 5 seconds or less, posted in this very topic. So? Okay, I guess? Good loaders exist, average loaders exist. Excellent loaders can and will reload a 120mm in about 5 seconds during sustained fire. Sometimes a bit slower, sometimes a bit faster.
I served alongside these people during my time and this argument of loader fatigue is a fat myth. Moving an object from right to left ISN’T a tiring movement and loaders commonly train to deadlift heavier weight than your 120mm shell. The case could be made if they had to pick up the shell from the floor and carry it up to the breech but that simply isn’t the case.
I mean what I said about the stats going up once all the “spice of the month” players stop playing top tier still applies, and you also didn’t show data for other nations’ tanks.
Autoloaders can shoot multiple thousands of rounds before being at risk of jamming, effectively zero chance of one breaking down in the timespan of a War Thunder match. Human loaders are incomparably worse in the measures of reliability or sustained firing. Human loading is highly variable and fatigue starts increasing from the first round shot.
Fatigue isn’t that much of a factor. I mean its equivalent to moving around holding only a barbell, it’s not that hard.
If ‘fatigue’ is an added mechanic then the autoloaders should be modeled in game so that any damage to the ammo, the carousel around it, and the turret (generally) should stop the autoloader from working.
Except loading would still be possible with damaged autoloader as there is semi automatic procedure of loading and fully manual loading procedure aswell
My name here is obviously the same as my name in-game.
You can view my profile and check the relevant replays to see what nations I was teamed with. Not that it matters much because the M1A1 melts any vehicle of any nation in it’s current matchmaking.
The winrate of my M1A1 has gone up from 58% to 61% recently dispite already having had 450+ battles in it. You can also verify that my K/D ratio has been gradually increasing since the patch, especially with my latest sessions sitting on 13 - 1 K/D.
I’m not sure why the topic suddenly moved to loader fatigue when nobody talked about that.
Regardless, I don’t think there’s any autoloading systems at top-tier (for sure not the Soviet ones) that had any reliability issues.
U.S. autoloaders also performed tens of thousands of reload cycles in tests without failure.
Ammo stowage is hard to reach in a soviet style auto loader but in other types of autoloader it isn’t a problem. So soviet style auto loader would see a increased reloading time.
