Seafire Mk XV Aéronavale : a French Griffon Seafire

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i’d say yes/+1, but under the condition that they add domestic french designs to Rank IV of the French air tree.

Rank IV is already -by necessity- filled to the brim with imports, and the only french aircraft at is locked behind a paywall

+1 need another french navy aircraft rank IV

But I don’t know this fighter aircraft battle rating 5.0 (same Seafire LF Mk III) or 5.3 (like Seafire F Mk.XVII)

I mean i’d love that, but it is very hard to find rank IV French made fighters, for obvious reason… rank IV is dedicated to the very pinnacle of WW2 tech, the 1943/45 top creations of each nation… obviously, that was a problem for France… I can think of many designs, but none are rank 4 material:

Dewoitine 551-2-3-4 is rank 3 material at most, br. 3.0-4.0 max… same goes for the Arsenal VG 39… Caudron 760/770 are 2.0/3.0 material tops… SNCASE SE 100 heavy fighter can reach 4.0 tops… And post-war, we already got the VB10 and Narval in the game, after that it’s all jets, VG 90, SNCASO Espadon, etc… those are rank V.

Only one I can think of would be the Sud Est 580 but this is an unfinished prototype, not sure it’s valid.

So yeah, there are lots of foreign aircrafts at rank IV because there’s not much else, unfortunately.

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three best bets i can come up with off the dome, though they all have cons to consider :

  • The SO.8000 Narval, which implies either another/copy as a researchable, or replace the premium one entirely.

  • The SE.116 Voltigeur, but information is sparce and it might still not be good enough

  • the Fouga CM.170 series of light attack trainers (including 170-1, 170-2 and 175 for the major service variants), but gaijin has yet to add a researchable light-attack jet at rank IV

Edit : i know well that the amount of imports in the tech tree at rank IV is a necessity, i’m just ever so slightly miffed that the only domestic aircraft we do have, is a premium

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Yeah, I am as well. But I mean, what can you expect from the people who put the Bloch 151 and 152, you know, the second most produced French fighter of WW2, as event prizes of all things.

As for your propositions… yeah, a second Narval could be it but it would be almost identical to the first one, and I don’t see them doing the job here. The Voltigeur is definitely much closer to a Ground attack plane… heavily armed but far too slow and heavy for fighter performances

As for the Magister… well I made a suggestion for it, so yeah, it would be more or less acceptable but…

The thing is a balancing nightmare. It is fast and nimble, but a pair of 7.62mm is incredibly difficult to balance at this tier so… yeah, complicated.

Not much left after that, that’s for sure. The Breguet Vultur, maybe, but it’s also more of an attack plane and its perfs are dangerously close to tier V because of its hybrid propulsion.


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The markings are not the correct one. Those are the british markings, for the french ones you need to reverse the blue and red.

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I have a pretty long list of possible French additions, but strangely all the domestic options fit better in Ranks I-III or V-VII.

The SE.580s, although unfinished, would be good additions here. There could even be a folder with the 2 different intended armament configurations (1x 30mm + 2x 20mm + either 8x 0.30s or 6x 0.50s)

They aren’t fighters, but we could also see the unique French A-26N variant and the AAS 01A (He 274) in Rank 4 as well.

The imported F8F-2, A-26C, and P2V-6 would also be good additions…just not domestic.

Regarding imports… in addition to the Seafire F Mk.XV, we could also see the F8F-1, F8F-2, A-26C, and Do 335 V14 (prototype for the B-2).

EDIT: As another poster said, the CM.170 would probably have a low enough BR to slide in at Rank IV due to weak speed and armament.

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CM.170 is 6.0 material at best. On paper, it seems like a 6.0 plane to me due to low speed and weak armament. That could go Rank IV like the Strikemaster.

Also, the Me 262 A-1/U4 is a Rank 4 TT jet.

I would love to see the proposed Br.961 with 30 mms, but it was sadly never built.

With their recent track record, I don’t see Gaijin adding planes like this unfortunately.

If we are going to get the Fouga jets, the Fouga 90 could be another option, basically a up armed CM.170

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This ?

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Well yes, indeed. That’s the difficulty with the French air tech tree. Not that it matters anymore, because for the time being, unique WW2 aircrafts are as far removed from Gaijin’s priority as it can get.

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Would this be any higher than the LF.III we have?

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5.3/5.7 I’d say, similar to the Belgian one.

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Probably pretty similar to the UK Seafire Mk.XVII, which is 5.3.

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Did the french use german bombs ? That bomb doesn´t look like a british one, looks more like a german 50kg bomb.

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It’s possible, there was much post war surplus left in France after the hasty German retreat in 44-45… but it isn’t that simple to adapt a bomb to a foreign rack. Truth be told, I don’t know.

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+1

It will be fun watching French mains on other sites have a meltdown with French-operated “C&P” (or we see their true colours)

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