SB 2500 A1 (Spezialbombe 2500 A1)

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German explosives

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Series #1: SB-2500 A1
The Luftwaffe used wide variety of bombs during its service in WWII, many of which are a subject of great interest to history and military enthusiasts. With the multi-purpose nature of military explosives, it was natural that they would also use different explosive materials and fillings in these bombs.

For hardened targets armour piercing bombs with Amatol and Fp60/40 were more common and against naval vessels, Trialen 105 was used. Here, the SB-2500 A1 was used with Trialen 105 due to its higher explosive properties and thus higher damage capability towards ships and high value targets such as merchant ships and military transport vessels.

Many bombs from the German arsenal were used with many of these fillings. According to research by the British post WWII on German arsenals, every bomb from the SC50, 250, 500, 1000, 1800 and 2500 used Trialen 105 as a filling as well as Amatol. Depending on the specific mission and target type, ground crew would load either the standard yellow tip (Amatol) “SCXXXX” or the silhouette of a ship stencilled (Trialen 105) “SCXXXX Trialen”.

Technical Specifications

Bomb calibre: 825mm
Bomb weight: 2500 kg (±70 kg)
Bomb length: 3895mm
Warhead weight: 2000kg
Warhead filling: Trialen 105

Visual References

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Aircraft in game that can use this bomb
  • He-111 H-6 (1 bomb externally)
  • He-111 H-16 (1 bomb externally)
  • He-177 A-5 (2 bombs internally or externally under wing racks)
  • Do-217 (all) (1 bomb internally)
  • Ju-288 C-1 (2 bombs internally)
  • Me-264 V3 (2 bombs internally)
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Sources for aircraft loadouts
He-111 H-6

Can carry one bomb externally.

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He-111 H-16

Can carry one bomb externally.



He-177 A-5

Can carry two bombs internally or two bombs extremely one under reach wing rack.




Do-217

Can carry one bomb internally.

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Ju-288 C-1

Can carry two bombs internally.



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Me-264 V-3

Can carry two bombs internally.

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Yes!

more bombs is a good thing, should’ve been added ages ago

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So what is this, an ap bomb or just another reskin of the bomb that the he111 already has

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He 111 H-16 has this:

This suggestion is for this plus Trialen 105:

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No the H16 use the SC 2500 which is a general use bomb the SB 2500 A1 is a high capacity bomb build of on pice of cast aluminium, with the filling being extended to the tail (bc the bomb was made ad one piece) making the bomb have greater filling weight of 2000kg instead of 1700kg with the down one down side that the bomb casing is thin

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Not very sure about this but possibly the BV 238 can carry two 2500kg bombs under the wings


Other aircrafts that can carry the 2500kg are the Do 317 and possibly the Ju 388K but both of them are still not in game

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i mean any thingthat add loadouts to the bv238 is good, i always did wonder what other loadouts it should have

Look here:

Manuals:

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/bv-238-baubeschreibung-pdf.790892

https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/attachments/bv-238-flugleistungen-pdf.790893

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2000 kg

Also 2000 kg

If it can carry four of the 2000kg then it should be able to carry the 2500kg on the wing racks

Idk English and Russian sources suggested that the maximum is 3000kg for both the K-0 and K-1


1430246908_bezymyannyy

If it can carry the 2500kg or not, well it’s up to the bomb bay dimensions, since it can carry the SC2000 (which is just a worse SC1800)

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So the 2500kg should fit if not all of them, then the SB2500 should fit since it’s the smallest between the other 2500Kg and it’s dimensions are close to the SC1800 with small differences.

damn this should be reported and hopefully fixed as its missing out on a lot of capability

I took another look, actually it appears that it can in theory carry the 2500kg bc as listed the bomb load for short rang is 3000kg which is the maximum load that it can carry
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So the bomb load should be even,
2 x SC1000, or
1 x SC 1800, or
1 x SC/SB 2500.

I already started a bug report on missing weapons on the 238:

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/eJlLZdDpTyzB

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Is it that the maximum of 3,000 kg is achieved by including the additional bombs carried by both wing racks since the biggest caliber bomb that the internal bomb bay can mount is an SC 1800 and/or SC 2000?:

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Well, sad it’s not able to carry the 2500kg, but at least if it got added in game it will be a good bomber (since it should be placed at low br bc all it have is a twin 13mm and a sing 1800kg maximum bomb load)

I had a suggestion written for the Ju 388 K-2 on the old forums but it was never approved. Someday soon™ I will resubmit it on this forum

Good luck in the suggestion would like to see the Ju-388 K in game