Besides being avaliable for purchase, players that already had it might want the decal which requires you to add it to your line-up
another case of “i don’t like that people play with vehicle X so it should go up in BR”
and explosive filler.
I mean, you do seem to suggest that the Sav has a mobility weakness. Given I’ve actually played it, I disagree. It’s a respectable tank with regards to mobility, being reasonably fast, pretty good on the traverse front, and it also happens to reverse pretty well.
The Gun is… well, here’s where it gets tricky - the only enemies that you will consistently have a drama with are T14s, KV-1s and Churchills. All have some weaknesses that can be exploited.
Everything else is a matter of when the Sav player decides to fire. Sherman frontal arrays can give you a bit of drama, but Turret shots are actually viable, as are the MG ports and transmission. High angle side shots (as in, 50-60 degrees, not autoricochet angles) are also surprisingly viable. T-34s are turret face and side armour, and I can’t think of much else that’s common that will give you any major dramas. The only thing i’ve ever had utter nightmares with are the German captured KV-1 (but then again, cupola) and the KV-1B and E, which thanks to their uparmoured nature, means that you basically need to take out their engine and run.
What makes this tank so lethal is the large shell calibre (big spall) and very good amount of filler (also big spall) which, in tandem with the hilarious rate of fire, which means should the player firing back whiff, unless they have a 50 cal, generally doesn’t end well.
Which leads neatly onto my other point, in which you are correct - the armour is pathetic. Not that that is a problem particularly, if you kill the enemy before they kill you. But players with HMGs are to be feared as, if you’re caught without any rounds in the ready rack, is usually game over.
It could honestly go to 4.0, but given that Sweden has a pretty neat lineup there (Ikv 103 underrated imo? only played a few games in it and I find it very, very fun to play) I don’t think it’d make a difference. 4.3 maybe, but I doubt that’ll ever happen. The problem is of course because it’s been on sale, it’s being spammed a lot, and all they have to do is be lucky once. A couple of weeks down the line it’ll be less of an issue, but I still think it could go to 4.0 without too much of an issue for anyone. It stops 2.7s from having to face it, and it puts it neatly into a lineup that exists.
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Shermans, KV-1s, Churchills, T-34s, Pz4H… the most common vehicles in the game that the SAV coincidentally sees.
Say what-
T-34s and Panzer IVs are easy fodder for a sav. Churchills depend on the variant, NA75 and VIII are an issue but the III is fodder and you can go through turret cheeks.
KV-1s depend on the variant- L-11s are easy kill through turret cheeks, Zis-5 and 1s are an issue though.
Shermans it depends. The A1 is fodder, and anything with am early turret can be pretty easily killed through the cheek, and MG port is a pretty reliable weakspot.
Honestly more scary is the 105 due to overpressure, but for most of these you can just retreat and flank.
In my expierience just KV-1 models have a chance vs. these hilariously undertiered autogun APHE spammers. T-34, Shermans, Panzer IV have no chance. Bam bam bam everything dead. Seen them killing several medium and light tanks in a row. The quick autofire even allows it to fire on the move, since you can spam shots out. Its just far too low BRed. Its a machine from hell, far too advanced and just king on all these small city maps. It pops out from around a corner and everything gets spammed to death.
T-34 has a 45mm hull plate while being a more stable platform so they can usually get first shot off.
Panzer IVH has 100mm of front hull armor, and ~70mm of turret.
When I say I almost never die to SAVs, I mean it.
All they have is reload, and some mobility, the rest of their tank is flaws.
Without that reload it’d be ~2.3.
The only tanks I’ve had issues with are KV-1s, all others can be easily penetrated from the side, or frontally. However the LFPs are easy to pen if they aren’t angled. Churchills are quite rare around 4.0 from what I’ve seen.
4.0 would be fair, it shouldn’t be facing 2.7 tanks.
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As I said. I’m a notorious KV-1 user (its an op tank by its own). Just with KV-1 I feel somewhat safe vs all these swedish handouts. I tried the T-34 and ofc the Panzer IV models…not a chance.
Because you know how to counter them, but other players (or yourself) can’t counter a sav that has flanked you. They also were very rare before they went on sale.
It’s no different than a turretless M24 with a better reload and cannon.
Usually I get the first shot off in the sav, and the 2nd or 3rd. Players rarely fire on the move at lower BRs from what I’ve seen.
Just because you think they are easy to counter/not good, does not mean they are easy to counter for everyone. Plus you haven’t even played it.
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Literally turret cheek lmao
-34s are easy af to kill
Dead through turret in an insant.
Ehhhh
Probably 2.7, due to HE filler. The reload makes it easily 4.0 though, and it could easily go to 7.0 with accurate ammo imo.
Learning to have ears open isn’t the hardest thing.
@ZendikarHaven
Try hitting the turret cheek after stopping before I shot you first from hearing you before you came around the corner.
SAV’s ammo is already accurate.
Nope!
The gun it used got APDS (Prototype ammo, however), HE-VT, and apparently heat (from old forum post on it)
And turret cheek is easy af lol
out of all those, unless you panic, Panzer 4s are easy kills, T-34s and Shermans are pretty much easy kills so long as you don’t derp your rounds into their front plate (and failing that, you can MG Port a Sherman) - Churchills are pretty achievable thanks to their flat plates.
As I said, the only tank you might have a major drama with is a T14 (don’t see them all that much so…) and KV-1s (L-11 is a turret face job, although iirc you can lower plate them and stand a reasonable chance of fragging the crew) are a bit of a pain, but that said that’s why a) you have a team, and b) you have mobility to get around them, and c) you wait to ambush them. not to mention hitting the barrel is also an option.
And its a 120mm so you are likely to break it.
There’s also the slightly less angled plates on some models like the M4A4, which are easy to hit.
Ideally you wouldn’t be engaging tanks frontally too.
As long as isn’t angled, KV-1s are fairly easy to kill too.
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Agreed. Even in AB this thing is busted, and it doesnt even have armor.
yeah, frontal array is an avoid on everything. not because you can’t pen anything, just because from the side achieves more consistent results
50mm of turret armour on the front, and the hull armour’s sides are angled (with only 35mm of side armour), making it even easier to kill it. The Panzer IV H’s armour (at least compared to the sherman’s or T-34) is pretty poor.
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