SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

he using info he has on blue vixen i believe

Marvin’s LAU-139 MRL for Gripen is different to Cobham’s CRL/MML shown there

This is LAU-139. It’s a bit more boxy in form than the Cobham CRL/MML

Modification for Gripen over 127/128/129 is those two hooked suspension lugs that interface directly with Gripen’s pylons, and the electrical socket being located behind the lugs rather than in the middle.

LAU-139 mounted on Gripen


Fear not though, LAU-127/128/129/139 can all have BOL adapters the same as CRL/MML

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Hope they add the USMC harrier av8b. I’d want it as a squadron vehicle but there is already a squadron harrier. Otherwise it’d be a fun tt CAS

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Only logical reason its not come yet, is they are planning it for 12.3 with AMRAAM sometime this year. Maybe in June assuming ARH come in that update.

We should’ve had the earlier variants of the Harrier II for all applicable parties in game for at least a couple updates now. AV-8B/Harrier II variants without AIM-120 shouldn’t have to wait for a large ARH missile update for implementation.

Im guessing it was because the US got a LOT of very strong high/top tier aircraft that would perform much the same role, but better. Sub-sonic CAS at 11.7 actually kinda sucks. From experience in the Gr7, The Tornado Is generally better because its faster. I imagine the same would be said for the AV-8B+ for the US. the F-14B and F-16C would outperform it massively. Meanwhile the AV-8B+ for Italy was needed as they were running out of native options (something the US has no issue with) and Britain needed the Gr7 as it was our only aircraft above 11.3 for 14 months.

In 2023 the US got:

  • F-14B
  • F-16C
  • F-111A
  • F-15A

Meanwhile Britain and Italy got:

Italy

  • Tornado ADV
  • AV-8B+
  • AMX

Britain

  • Tornado F3
  • Sea Harrier FRS1e
  • Gripen C

But a Sub-sonic ARH Carrier would be ideal for the US, something on-par with aircraft like the Sea Harrier FA2.

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Some Gripen stuff

So was Blue Vixen developed After/in-tandem with the PS-05/A?

Always assumed Blue Vixen was developed before

From what i gather PS-05/A was taken from blue vixen

Like how it says sub units for sea harrier

My guess the Gripen radar is blue vixen with all the extra stuff the Gripen needed like the ground radar

Or at least at a foundational level, I always got the interpration that it was a unique radar that just heavily utilised research/tech from the Blue Vixen.

So what does it mean by “Sub units” then? Maybe thats the part of the timeline that has me a little confused

Sub units

Probably using parts of blue vixen as the Gripen radar can do more then what blue vixen in the shar can

The main part is it shows a clear link and that maybe the radar can be brought up to blue vixen

Yep, I think Blue Vixen C&P is a good starting point at the very least and if it never changes from that, then until the Gripen E, the Gripen A/C are gunna be some strong BVR aircraft

They do improve the radar on later versions but the E can get AESA

Yep, exactly, and its not until AESA/CAPTOR-M that Blue Vixen starts to get outshone

CAPTOR-M was also based from blue vixen as well

But definitely better

Yep it was, its why they stuck with mechanical radar in the Typhoon.