A plane that performs better on the vertical than an F14, Mig 29, F16C with such a small engine and can do tight loop at 15k meters without losing a lot of speed is a UFO, it could rate, 1c, 2c without losing energy or barely any
İt cant outrate any more due to new changes.
Also Gripen is aerodynamicly better then those planes, have you ever considered that? Ofc you didnt.
This only Russia and Usa can build proper jets myth is nothing but bs tbh.
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My brother have seen the size of F14 vs a Gripen small engine but small plane
The Gripen IRL is comparable to the F16 and is also newer
You don’t even have it. Your entire opinion is based of fighting it (where pilot skill is a factor) or test drive…
The Gripen is more modern than all of the planes you listed. Why is it so hard to believe that European nations can produce top level tech?
I didn’t consider that… well yes I did, I’m just talking in pure vertical… better or not it’s still a delta. The drag of the gripen is a joke… ans the way it used to keep energy was a complete joke (I played only one game with it right now with the new changes, it seems better now)
Anyway feels like everyone was whining about how they won’t be able to dogfight without connecting 1 brain cell…
Well, first of all the Gripen design originated from the 70s and first flew in 1988… It’s handheld by avionics and ordnance. The thing has a lot of inaccuracies to resolve still.
It’s not on par with similar era vehicles let alone modern ones.
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Because people like you keep asking for it to be nerfed without basis, because you think it couldn’t possibly be better than US or Russian jets.
That’s against the rules fyi.
It’s inspiring that you still feel brave enough to voice your opinion.
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What are you on about the planes your comparing it to were made in the 70s it first flew doesn’t meant anything as in the years before it entered production it had changes
Welcome to European designed aircraft. I know, its crazy, but Europe tends to build better vehicles than either US or USSR. We just dont build thousands of them
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or 3 different ones at once
If you compare them to decades old US designs, sure.
Careful, the big man is going to draw upon his years and years of war thunder experience to explain to you why you’re wrong about top secret european fighter jets.
I really hope it’s just a kid.
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or some pixel paint art
Modern European designs routinely outperform US and Russian vehicles. Challenger 2 routinely wins NATO competitions. Typhoon and Rafale often go toe-to-toe with anything the US has, only exception being in a BVR fight vs F-22s, but even then, its not an easy fight for the F-22, they have to work for it.
Gripen C entered service in 1996.
F-16C 1984
Su-27 1977
Is it insane to think that maybe the Gripen C outperforms them because its a more modern and capable aircraft than what other nations have and not because its modeled wrong and needs nerfing. Again. Europe can produce great vehicles. I know Americans and Russians forget that Europe exists sometimes and that anything we produce must be rubbish, but truth is. Our kit is almost always much better in year for year comparison. Just look at the Blue Vixen Radar on the Sea Harrier FA2 and compare it to an other radar in the world at the same time.
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There is no point man. You’re just going to get copium back from him, using logic with the consistency of wet spaghetti.
Yeah, he goes out of his way to nerf every other nation except the one he plays. Guarantee hes not putting this much effort into nerfing the Su-27 or F-15
The opposite in fact
To emphasis though. if it is wrong with multiple valid soruces, then so be it. Submit a bug report. But the argument that:
“Gripen C cannot be superior to the F-16C, F-15, Su-27, etc… Because “reasons” (likely because its not US or Soviet) and therefore, its flight model in gmae must be wrong and must be nerfed to be inferior”
Without any evidence, is just BS.
We’ve already seen them nerfing the Gripen C for no apparent reason. Like the fact that SAS: Damping is being capped at 10G not 12G because apparently there is absolutely 0 reason to ever need to pull more than 9G, so 10G is a “compromise” amount.
Basically all of his reports of russian stuff is buffs. The nerfs are minor.
He’s done a few on US stuff, minor nerfs, some buffs/adjustments.
The Gripen in '96 was up against AESA radars and stealth fighters if you’re gonna go off what the US had in the pot. Cherry picking specific things for comparison doesn’t deny the fact that Europe is generally behind the US in most regards.