Well, there is certainly reason, but not enough to make it an entirely new aircraft to grind for.
Just update the 13.7 “model” as a “late”
Idk gaijin has done it before where they makw you grind another 400k rp for one new missile and nothing else
Totally onboard with that. But now they have 2 Ceasar already, so giving the later one upgraded capabilities is easier than making a while new one, and besides, the next gripen airframe is bound to be the E.
And the E is pretty much an entirely new airframe, commonality with A/C is miniscule.
So why bother making 2 new aircraft one you can make one and just slightly modify the other. (Hopefully)
The E is the end of the Air tree as a whole. Had gaijin not rushed it i wouldve liked to see the Gripen NG come with early EFT and Rafale so sweden could have a early Gripen C amalgam and a 14.0 worthy Gripen C with a better Radar and for now the current armament on the gripen C. At this point i dont care. Gaijin has made us grind the same jet for 1 new missiles twice for 400k rp theres no point in fighting it. Especially since they have ruined the C by blatantly acknowledging they have no interest in following the MS series and would rsther stick to their own ideal version.
Rushing to the E is bad as rn sweden air has 2 vehicles left, the F18 and the E, maybe F35 but we are ways away from that once the E and F18 are here only the die hard fans are gonna grind, outside of that why grind the swedish air tree. I can play 3 other nations and get the same gripen essentially and have multiple other vehicles to grind.
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Is your MFD also in this condition or is it mine that has a bug? I’m talking about layering text
I created a report on the new AoA limiter remover function coming to the game not being on the JAS39 versions:
Please check it out, like it and provide additional information if you have it :)
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Hey all, i’m back again with yet another report for JAS39C on DEV, this time about the new radar mode that identifies targets. If you have any more sources to add or any comments they are all welcomed :)
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/XozrBTHJ9S7w
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Now that is confirmed not only ground attackers being given ground modes (with the inclusion of these search modes on the Su-30sm) all jets with these capabilities should receive them.
Not to mention the gripen being stuck with a mark 1 radar significantly hantering its abilities compared to the Mk.iv in use.
I don’t think the radar on live is a mk.1. At the very least its the last iteration of mk.2 or first iteration of mk.3. I made an extensive report on the radar upgrades 9 months ago (Community Bug Reporting System) and it has been sent to devs, but since the JAS39C’s aren’t of a specific MS version the DEVS can pick and choose upgrades based on balance.
Its not any mark. Its the Blue Vixen from the Sea Harrier FA2.
I dont think its gotten a single upgrade or change yet
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Very nice, hopefully we get it on more aircraft soon too
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Now to eventually get literally any of the MS19 upgrades considering the weird mismash of a freak of nature all of the C’s are (burn them with fire)
Finally! Glad Smin nudged the report :)
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I think this issue may be better addressed in a forum post that gets enough engagement to attract the attention of the devs through community managers. I’m not exactly sure how we’ll bug reports would work when the devs aren’t sure of the version.
I get this but if I’m remembering correctly they are not consistent in choosing the capabilities of an ms version and sticking with it
That is because why choose a specific model when you can just add whatever you want for balance. Additionally IRL the SAAF is the only user to not have MS20 yet in game has GBU-39 function despite not having the upgrade irl to even use it.
Its a balancing factor but considering all nations with Gripens (minus 1) have alternatives it means its less likely gaijin bothers to add things they may change its balance. I mean we dont even have the first big difference like the 5th bomb pylon. Or PS0/5A MK.II radar. Ect ect each MS from 17 to 20 has incremental upgrades that build upon each other.
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Yeah, we’ve gone over those a bit in the thread for the Swedish Gripen C. Still bothers me to bits how I got the answer from Smin that the specific version for the Rafale and Eurofighter were necessary to get their capabilites but it was not important for the Gripen.
I asked how that wasn’t the case for the Gripen and got no answer…
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Gripen C seems likely to get a 20% nerf to sustained turn rate according to a bug report, this might also affect Gripen E/NG I suspect since Gaijin is likely to base performance of the Gripen E/NG from the Gripen C.
Gripen - Sustained Turn Rate too high // Gaijin.net // Issues