I DM’d him, he just doesn’t want to take it out of the thread. Let’s not keep back and forth unless there is information relevant to the formation of reports and fixes / discussion of the Gripen, though
Just as an example, your own comment could have been a DM to either of us. No need to further clutter the thread with what has already been said.
First of all, I largely left that thread hundreds of replies / 1-2 weeks before it was shut down, I think we both know the main culprit/s. Second I’m being very cordial with you, I’ve simply nicely asked if you could make a thread about it - saying you’d be able to get a productive discussion going. I’ve made my intentions clear. Stop spinning it.
I was part of it for over 1000 replies in that thread, trying to get some productive discussion with you (I gave up on feet long ago). You mostly ignored 90% of my message and the information I found on canards and just hyper fixated on one small detail, sometimes ignoring my message/question altogether. I’m aware you were on a road trip though and may have missed it but still. That together with constant derailment from other people made it hell.
You literally asked devs/mods and got the go-ahead to use certain reasoning/charts for a report, and indicated you’d make a report if no-one else did ‘in a month or so’ (paraphrasing, not skimming through 2000+ replies)
Where are we trying to buff its performance? We were all part of a weeks long thread on the performance/accuracy and literally got nowhere except a nasty environment. Anyone is free to bug report this stuff at any time, why are you so concerned about what we’re concerned about?
I’m not dismissing anything, You’re blissfully unaware of how sick everyone is of that topic after what happened. At least offer a new perspective with some sources if you’re going to instigate again.
Because that’s literally how the community goes about fixing/changing stuff… We make bug reports??? You’re very aware of this. As for the ‘death threats’ you’re claiming happened back when air superiority released 3 months ago, where did this even happen? If it’s not clearly trolls I suggest you file a police report.
I gave very valid criticism to the charts which was the entire foundation upon the performance in question (Aside from constant dogfight/video spam). I think you know this, IIRC you never actually criticised/answered the questions I raised about them.
Please… Everyone will appear biased arguing their point but I’m nowhere near as biased as feet. It’s literally hilarious watching him constantly spin narratives with his ‘sim experiences’ to make a point. That’s literally what 90+% of his 300 posts in the thread consisted of.
He literally did so here again yesterday (when someone called him out over having worse stats in the Gripen than in a Su27 after making the Gripen out to be the most handheld easiest most overpowered jet in the game ever.) comparing Schezerade’s K/D in Su27 vs JAS-39 to make a point of how people earn a staggering +3K/D just by switching to the JAS-39 when in reality it’s because of Blue-sides vastly superior RWR/Radar, situational awareness and invisible missiles in sim. The same player has a +2K/D in both F16A and F16C over the JAS-39… I guess the F16’s must be the most handheld jets in the game?..
Using K/D and ‘player stats’ to judge a flight model is absolutely ridiculous and the fact that he’s constantly resorting to doing so is telling. You might have some dunning Kruger in you, even Feet attest to this but at least you’re able to conduct some interesting discussions on flight-models (sometimes) and don’t constantly derail with unproductive statements
I’m afraid I’m not that knowledgeable but I don’t think the rail specifically is a limitation as much as the aircraft’s systems architecture. R-Darter could theoretically be integrated with the Gripen but as it was retired before the Gripen entered SAAF service it’s unlikely. The Gripen’s weapon systems are designed for “easy” (as easy as that can be, anyway) integration of stores based on user requirements to make it more attractive for export so in theory it would be possible. One obstacle is that the Israeli Derby, which is extremely similar to R-Darter, tends to be equipped to planes using specifically Israeli radar units. For instance, the Cheetah C and Kfir C.10 both use the EL/M-2032 radar which is an Israeli system.
I’ll just DM you, there are concerns about the potential for this to turn into a slap fight. Y’all really gonna leave it up to me to make the big boy decision, though?
But the Gripen radar isn’t like this but they seem to be planning to give it R darter any way
I don’t know if that’s what he said but it’s true. I’d argue there have been very few times when a plane has had this large of a performance gap against everything else in the game and in this specific case it’s due to an erroneous flight model.
While fixing the FM doesn’t solve all the worlds problems, it is a problem being solved. Yet not a soul has tried putting together a report to fix the issue. It keeps getting ignored. Had it been a buff they would have reported it a long long time ago.
I mean, like I said it’s what usually happens with Derby installations. Rafael says themselves that they can integrate Derby onto platforms that don’t even have a radar. Personally I think there are multiple things that could happen in the future so it’s too early to say that “Gaijin seems to be planning R-Darter for the Gripen”.
well it either that on they planning the Cheetah C
Is the fact that they are using the Gripen to test the R-Darter on the dev server not a relatively good indicator?
We’ll go through the rest in DM at some point
I genuinely would have, I am hindered by being on console though, I cannot conduct any in-game tests and use stuff like “WRTRI” or whatever it’s called. I’m also carefully managing where I put my focus IRL. Recently things have been busy and the thread was going nowhere, hence why I got out of that thread 1-2 weeks before it got locked. Anyone is free to make these bug reports, I also don’t know why no-one has gotten around to it, especially feet with all that ‘conviction’ he’s got in his charts.
it might just be to test R darter as the cheetah isn’t in the game
If its strapped to the Gripen I’d expect to see it in production on the Gripen.
i guess but they did have R73s on the mig29s on the dev
I hope gaijin consider change laser designator pods to gen 3 on JAS39C Gripen (HuAF & SAAF) in 2nd major update
Looking forward to this. I really wish they would add the anti-ship missiles for the Swedish tree too. Super iconic, they were also used on the Viggen. This is the RB-04
If they ever add a Realistic EC mode then it would be great
I don’t know if you play sim, but there are a few maps in EC sim where boats regularly spawn. There’s also “destroy boat convoy” and “Destroy carrier” objectives. Tons of fun to attack with laser guided missiles. Viggen and Gripen anti-ship would be great for this
Yeah i know that but not all lot play sim
If they made the sim game mode but with mouse aim controls i think alot of people would play it giving a better need for anti ship missiles
Yeah for sure. It’s unfortunate. Gaijin is sitting on a winning lottery ticket with the simulator game-mode but refuse to work on it
Right and they were removed due to being “too strong” at the time. Where as the R-Darter/Derby is probably the weakest (right now) of the new ARH missiles.
