Poly can we bring this to the mirage Thread.
I would be more than happy discuss the mirage in more detail. Though I do not know what difference does it make whether it is a 4th generation iteration of the original Mirage 3 (why it’s called 2000) or a completely new revolutionary design that Dassault made that has nothing to do with their previous mirages.
I suppose Dassault just could not think of another name for some reason.
Cheetah is a upgraded mirage 3 so what is the difference between 3 and 2000
His position is that the Since the Mirage 2000 has technologies such as FBW, leading edge droop flaps, strakes, a digitally enhanced fuselage, digital radar (very good one) and new engines means that it is a completely new design.
However these are just 4th generation technologies that emerged in the late 70s. The Mirage 2000 is a 4th generation iteration of the original Mirage 3. It is not a completely new design such as the Rafale or the Swedish Gripen.
imo of course :)
im gonna look into it
Nah seem to be a completely different aircraft just similar to the last
yeah thats cool. I do not see how my belief that it isn’t is such an issue. But I am always willing to discuss it and thus learn more about it.
Yeah technically it is a new aircraft since it’s not a physical upgrade to and existing Mirage III.
I am saying it is not a totally new design that separates it from the previous iterations. If that was the case, they would not name it the Mirage and not give it a designation 2000 signifying that this particular Mirage variant will take Dassault into the 21st century.
Is the F-15E Strike Eagle a completely new design or is just an aircraft built and originates from the original F-15A?
It has newer technologies, altered fuselage etc and serial produced. It is not a physical upgrade to existing F-15s… Then why is it not considered a completely new aircraft with little to do with the previous?
That is the same premise of friend @POLYDEUCES argument. That the Mirage 2000 is completely different and has nothing to do with the previous Mirages and sits in its own evolutionary line. It’s a completely different fighter that has its own tree.
That is the position he holds, and I do not believe it at this time.
The F-15E is based on the F-15 though. It originates from the same base version.
Comparing Mirage 2000 to Mirage III is similar to comparing F-15 to F-4.
Mirage 2000 is different to Mirage III/5/50 in every aspect but the general configuration of being a tailless delta and the engine used being bsed on the Atar as well.
What is your position on Mirage F.1? That would be interesting. It looks like a Mirage III with changed wing, wether that observation reflects it’s design history I do not know.
I’m sorry.
Am an Proud owner of the SAAF Gripen:
Worst grind of my life (even worse than the British Heavy cruisers), but damn it looks good. Haven’t played any battles yet but if anyone has stock grind tips I would be incredibly enthusiastic.
stock grind tip is fuck the 9Ls, they’re useless garbage and just go for ground targets until you get the 9Ms
or kill AI with the 9Ls if you feel like it
Thanks very much, I’ll just hit ground targets until I get the Skyflash’s/9M’s
How does it do as a gun fighter?
I used just guns until I got the skyflash’s on my FGR and then used those vs Mig-29’s, F-16/14/15 etc.
it turns well but turn fighting at that br is suicide. you also only have like 7 rounds of ammo so you either hit or you run out.
i’d say skip the skyflashes as well, they’re just as worthelss as the 9Ls
Thanks very much, and last question. Do you take max fuel and the droptank or just max fuel?
i take 20 mins + tank which gives ~5 mins more than max internal fuel iirc
Perfect, thanks very much. I have a Controllerbind to drop the fuel tank anyway but from test flights it doesn’t seem as thirsty as stuff like a Mig-29.
Nice, it’s incredibly good. Do you fly in sim at all?
Unfortunately not, much too hard on my controller being completely unable to freelook and maneuvre really put me off.
well it has half as many engines and its not crap like the RD-33 but instead is from the Hornet which is just known for low fuel consumption(at the cost of power)
Ah, stock grinding in sim is significantly nicer than RB.
By the way, I’m on PS5 and have a fantastic controls loadout for the controller, no trouble at all freelooking and maneuvreing at the same time, I can send you the controls if you want
If you’ve got them to hand then yeah that would be great. If you have RB one’s too I wouldn’t mind seeing those too.
