Thanks! That also answers @CorporalApollo 's questions I think.
Essentially BOL “Flares” are actually clouds of pyrophoric material. Think chaff that burns. So the intensity nerf is a maybe. But it should have come with other changes to make it realistic. just nerfing intensity is a nerf, plain and simple
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Have you got a source for that? I have read a lot of things about BOL and have not seen anything suggesting chaff cannot be deployed while the missile is still on the rail.
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Of course he doesn’t.
Could you imagine them designing a countermeasure system that requires you to dump your weapons to use them.
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I dont think its historical even in that Gripen E and C video by Saab a few weeks ago each release a singular countermeasure at a time.
If you used reinforced before then just use regular and itll be the same for you :p
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That might be the gripens built in CM though and not the BOL pod
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In fact didn’t they have issues with the last packet just falling out on take off?
They did. This was present on the Harrier IIs as well, where sometimes that could happen - Citation, Paul Tremelling.
Yep, where I heard it from
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Is that accurate though? I’m pretty sure BOL fires it’s flares from the rear of the dispenser?
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İ would like to see offical source for that rather then some drawing or assumptions but highly doubt there is any.
the packets get released behind the missile even. no reason for that to not work with a missile on it
oh and by the way, thats completely negated by the fact that the Eurofighter uses BOL rails on the ITSPLs which are 1 permanently attached and 2 pretty much always carry missiles oh and 3 are the only source of chaff afaik.
Why on earth would they not be able to release countermeasures
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Care to explain where you think this is interfering with the missle?
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Well I’ve looked into these things before, I’ve never seen it stated anywhere exactly where they dispense, but from videos and this picture on SAAB’s website It seems like they dispense in the back?
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If you think about it logically. That just doesn’t make sense. For many aircraft, BOL would be the primary means of countermeasures and not being able to use countermeasures just because you are still carrying missiles is kinda insane.
A Harrier providing CAS and defending against a MANPAD and not being able to use the large pool of Countermeasures to defeat it because it happens to be carrying 2x Aim9 for air defence for example
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The dispense from this hole right here:
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There might be exceptions, but I’m guessing for most it was rear
BOL always dispenses from the back, it is fundamental to how it’s designed. There is a conveyor belt of chaff packets running the length of the rail. A chaff packet is ejected from the rear of the dispenser and all the chaff packets move back one space, like how a chocolate bar is ejected from a vending machine and all the other chocolate bars move one space forward.
Edit: Here’s pictures from various manuals
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this is a chaff pod, you can see it stick out of the back in the pic above
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