SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

id rather forefeit all SAHR capability for DF capability in the current top tier meta, sure when FOX-3 is added that may change (i doubt it unless they’re given a really good ability to track on the deck)

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Agreed. I suspect everyone will get some form of Fox 3s around the same time, so i suspect the meta may shift towards planes that can get to high alt and sling Amraams at the highest speeds as quickly as possible, rather than the current “dodge the Phoenix and R-27 spam”

I’m pretty sure I’ve heard of jets having that, the paper referring It to “Normal” load factor limits kind of indicates the existence of other load limits in place?

@Flame2512 just perfectly showed sources for Quite literally different load limits for other jets, with the lowered one being labeled exactly that - “NORMAL Limit”

I don’t believe this (edited) chart represents the full flight envelope. There’s clearly context to the multiple redacted variables you didn’t touch on as well as the line becoming ‘dotted’ after 7.8G’s. Which is used to indicate something like lack of data or the likes of it.

Yep, you can actually see that switch in the cockpit right now in the game, set to “war mode”.

I actually tested the real Viggen’s G-suit in a real simulator. Very cool :)

Most Gripen A skins can also be modified quiet easily, just need to change the “a” to “c” in the BLK files. In addition to the Blackjack skin, I’ve also got this one on mine WT Live // Camouflage by Hassan_Tiger

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Gunjob also was in this battle and won 1v2 :D

AIM-9M close up inspection
https://streamable.com/35w272

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Currently Gripen is doing 25+ deg/s sustained turn at speeds as low as 0.35 mach. No one noticed this yet?

Well and above reality on this one.

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@Gunjob that hurt

Mate, I just wanted to get close to hear your concerns and contact you about your extended warranty.

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😂😂 I was just chilling doing some rolling and then I found another Gripen inside my cockpit

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Called it earlier, it seems to have no drag, it can play every (even the F15) fighter in vertical, and rates so well no jet can outrate it… In terms of high AoA it seem to have very little AoA at low speed… it’s utterly broken

From what info do you have to back that up

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Yeah it does have very little drag, thats kinda the big thing of the Gripen airframe.

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Get a video of its sustained turn rate and then see how it compares to declassified documents. Just stating a number is meaningless.

My report shows this pretty well

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Gripen at 1000m and higher does 27 and more deg/s it has better energy retention than an F14, lacks lot of AoA at low speed (strange considering it has little to no AoA at slow speed, strange for a canard design…) and I won’t talk about the way it behave it doesn’t slow down or bleed speed…

May I get a link for the report ? ^^

@Mytho61734 can we get someone more trustworthy to test this?

Mig23m is the same person who earlier attempted to pass off a document about the g regulators for inflating g suit trousers as a reason to limit the gripen FCS g limiter.

That’s either some agenda or embarrassing ignorance. Neither or which I think should be influencing GJN’s balance decisions.
And before you plead that you were just misunderstood - please, give it a rest. Be more honest with yourself.

I believe the Gripen ingame has a built in AOA readout on the HUD, which at 430~ KMH at 300m~ altitude is pulling “24”

This is the Spaded SAAF Gripen C With 20m of fuel and no pylons equipped.

I’ve flown the Gripen and flown against it in Air Simulator.

The plane pretty much dumpsters everything in a dogfight. If you merge with one…you die.

From my testing it can rate around 22-24 degrees per second with weapons and load out. However biggest advantage is initial turn rate and energy retention means that it can also sit in the 30 degrees per second region for a long time.

Merging with the Gripen while flying any of the F-15s is just a mistake. Even the Su-27 doesn’t really have a chance outside of gimmicky HMD + Funny AoA shot.