SAAF JAS-39C Technical Data and Discussion

there it is LMFAO

“peace time restrictions”

just gonna leave that term here ok?

kinda like the gripens G limits

least delusional Russian main

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According to the people who made it the Su-57 has an RCS of 0.1 - 1 m^2, that is not at all impressive for a “Stealth” aircraft.

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there’s no point in arguing with mr sukhoi design bureau himself…

Didn’t the patent for it describe it as having a RCS similar to a typhoon

Patent says Su-57 is 0.1 - 1.0 m^2. Typhoon is 1.5 m^2, or less.

Yeah, the Typhoon isn’t a stealth aircraft, and is much smaller than a Su-57 lmao.

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I wish you guys white christmas and Europe

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maybe some day in the future we can see the brazilian gripen in war thunder lol (or at least the brazilian camo, it looks cool imo)
F-39E (our gripen carries iris-t and meteors)


i fucking love this thing, is so beautiful

too op right now
and it is a beaut

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you can download it, its on wt live

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should have better wing loading AND better TWR

oh no way, really? thats so cool, thanks

Btw, i highly reccomend to add this to your skins. Its absolute banger.

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i already downloaded both of them lmao

Should the radar/missile hmd be off center?
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Ok, i just got how to replicate this bug. Report time(well, i will make it tomorrow).

The FM nerfs are huge and immediately noticeable for any decent pilot.

What’s funny is now that the FM is underperforming gaijin will refuse to fix it for months until new meta jets get released.
Nerf = immediately actioned in a few hours to days
Buff = random excuse and left in purgatory until they feel like buffing the airframe

The worst part for me by far is the absolutely bricked nose authority and AOA at speed. The rate and oscillations/wobbling at low speed are one thing, but the plane flies on rails as you approach and exceed mach 1. With 20m fuel + missiles this is very noticeable, and with drop tank added the plane turns into a shitbrick. Nose authority at transonic speeds is roughly the same as a tornado ADV on min fuel.

Very little reason to take Gripen over F-16 now. Maybe we should’ve just left the flight model as it was for a while until gaijin is ready to implement working FCS systems?

It was overperforming in sustained turn rate, now it is not. What else is there to say?

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Uh, take 10 mins, when you get to bfm stuff close to end of match, barely any difference. Now it feels more like a plane. Was the nerf pretty big? Yes. Is it still probably best dogfighter due to its agility and ability to point nose wherever you want at lower speed? Also yes. Its just not as easy anymore, still really enjoyable and nice plane to fly. Most fun to fly out of all top tier jets also as it doesnt actually feel like a brick. Its pretty much better in every single thing than F16C if you count in average lower fuel state throughout the battle.

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Devs stated it would go to 20-21 deg/s sustained, and per your graphs it sits at rougly 19 deg/s, which is underperforming.

Beyond that, by making this change they hit the rest of the flight model too. Now the FM has british syndrome, i.e. it will remain janky as fuck until the next time gaijin remembers it exists.