Saab MFI-17 Supporter "Saabs tiny terror of the sky"

Saab MFI-17 Supporter – Swedish Light Attack Aircraft

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Introduction

The Saab MFI-17 Supporter is a light attack and trainer aircraft developed in Sweden, evolving from the civilian MFI-15 “Safari.” Designed to be cost-effective and versatile, it saw military adoption due to its ability to carry a variety of armaments and equipment, making it suitable for ground attack roles. But also as a Trainer, due to it being cost effective and easy to fly


History

The origins of the MFI-17 Supporter trace back to the early 1970s when Malmö Flygindustri developed the MFI-15 Safari, a general-purpose light aircraft with excellent visibility and handling characteristics. First flown in 1971, it was initially designed for civilian training and utility roles. Recognizing its potential for military applications, Saab adapted the MFI-15 into the MFI-17 Supporter, which took its maiden flight on July 6, 1972. This military-oriented version was equipped for roles such as training, artillery observation, forward air control, and liaison duties.

The MFI-17 was eventually adopted by several air forces, including Denmark and Zambia. The Royal Danish Air Force procured 32 aircraft, designated as T-17s, for pilot training. Pakistan also produced the aircraft under license as the MFI-17 Mushshak, which remains in service to this day. The aircraft’s agility and adaptability made it a valuable asset for smaller air forces.

This aircraft could fill a unique gap in War Thunder’s Swedish tech tree, offering a highly maneuverable light attacker in lower BRs, while its Bantam missile variant could function at a mid-tier BR for ground battles.


Specifications

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General characteristics:
Crew: 1 (or 2 with Bantam ATGM variant)
Length: 7.02 m
Wingspan: 8.85 m
Height: 2.60 m
Empty weight: 794 kg
Loaded weight: ~1,200 kg (varies by payload)
Powerplant: 1 × Lycoming IO-360-A1B6 piston engine, 200~ hp

Performance:
Max speed: 236 km/h
Cruising speed: ~200 km/h
Service ceiling: 4,100 m
Range: 622 km


Armament

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Hardpoints: 6 underwing pylons with a variety of weapon configurations.

Center and inner pylons: 4x Abel pods, each carrying 7x 7.5 cm Sprängraket m/55 “Frida” (total: 28 rockets)


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Single 135mm HE & HEAT: as in the AJ37 pods rocket, that can in theory be mounted on the inner two pylons, resulting in a total of four across the wings.


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Bofors Bantam ATGMs: 6x missiles (requires additional crew member for guidance)


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Machine Gun Pods: 2x FFV UNI-POD 0127, each with 1x 12.7 mm M3 HMG (200 rounds per pod)


Pros & Cons

Pros:
✔ A upgrade to the B17A having better armaments if placed at 3.3
✔ FFV UNI-POD 0127 12.7mm Gun pods cannot jam
✔ Highly maneuverable, excellent low-speed handling
✔ Versatile armament (rockets, gun pods, ATGMs)
✔ Bantam missiles offer guided attack capabilities
✔ Lightweight and easy to control
✔ Small and therefore harder to hit

Cons:
✖ Very slow, being easily out-sped by all aircraft at its proposed tiers
✖ No armor protection, easily destroyed by enemy fire
✖ Low ordnance capacity compared to heavier attackers
✖ No bombs
✖ Bantam variant (7.3 BR) faces jets, making it very vulnerable against everything


Comparison to Similar Swedish Aircraft

Aircraft Role Primary Armament Max Speed Durability Agility BR Range
🇸🇪 (In-theory)Saab MFI-17 (No Bantams) Light CAS / Trainer 7.5cm Frida, 12.7mm gun pods 236 km/h Very weak Very high 3.3
🇸🇪 (In-theory)Saab MFI-17 (With Bantams) Light CAS / AT Support Bantam ATGMs, rockets, gun pods 236 km/h Very weak Very high 7.3
🇸🇪 B 17A Dive Bomber / CAS bombs 395 km/h Medium Average 2.7
🇸🇪 B 18B Attack Bomber 13.2mm MGs, bombs, rockets 590 km/h Sturdy Average 4.0
🇸🇪 A 21A-3 Attack Fighter 20mm cannon, 13.2mm MGs, bombs, rockets 660 km/h Sturdy Average 4.3

The MFI-17 Supporter without Bantams would act as a low-tier, highly maneuverable CAS aircraft, similar to early dive bombers like the B 17A, but with better versatility and weaker survivability. The Bantam-equipped version would be a unique 7.3 attacker, offering guided missile capabilities before the Saab 105G. However, its low speed makes it easy prey for jet fighters.


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Sammanfattning

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Norwegian Air Force SAAB Safari Olsen-1
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Implementation in War Thunder

The MFI-17 could be implemented in two ways:

  1. Tech tree variant (3.3 - 4.0 BR) – Equipped with machine gun pods and rockets, placed after the B 17A.
  2. Bantam ATGM variant (7.3 BR) – Added as a premium, event, or squadron aircraft due to its guided weapon capability.

Would you like to see this in-game?
  • Yes
  • No
0 voters
Should the Saab MFI-17 Supporter be added with or without the Bofors Bantam?
  • Only Without! (Most likely BR 3.3-4.0)
  • Both (One at BR 3.3-4.0~ and one later at 7.3~)
  • Only With! (Most likely BR 7.3 located before the SK-60B)
  • I said no. [/poll]
0 voters
What rank should the Saab MFI-17 Supporter be if added without the Bofors Bantam missiles?
  • Rank II (after the B17A)
  • Rank III
  • Rank IV (Before The A21A-A3)
  • I said no.
0 voters
Should the Saab MFI-17 Supporter with Bantams be Event/Premium/Tech Tree?
  • Event
  • Premium
  • Tech Tree
  • I said no.
0 voters

Sources

Sammanfattning

https://smb.nu
https://www.aef.se
https://aeroseum.se/saab-mfi-15-till-aeroseum/
Saab MFI-15 Safari / MFI-17 Supporter - Specifications - Technical Data / Description
SAAB Trainers: Safir, SAAB 105, & Supporter
https://www.reddit.com/r/WeirdWings/comments/bzka1u/saab_mfi15_safari_mfi17_supporter_mfi17_mushshak/
https://www.pprune.org/private-flying/585447-saab-mfi-15-safari-mfi-17-supporter.html
MFI-15 Safari / MFI-17 Supporter / MFI-395 Super Mushshak
https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mfi-17-trainer/
Saab‐MFI 17—Army co‐operation and trainer aircraft | Emerald Insight
Saab Safari - Wikipedia
PAC MFI-17 Mushshak - Wikipedia
Saab Safari | Military Wiki | Fandom
MFI-17 Mushshak/ Super Mushshak

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After a few weeks I’m glad to see my suggestion been passed!

Now I hope to see this little guy in war thunder soon^^

Separate air and ground brs could allow this thing to be 2.3 in arb and 7.3 in grb.

+1

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+1 either in a future COIN TT or in the Attacker line

One other thing of note the Bantam variant can be moved down to BR 6.7 since the Bantam in terms of performance is comparable to the Type-64 since it’s a slow missile with short range

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Swedish Cessna, sure why not, +1

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Currently the minimum BR for guided missiles is at about 7.0 for aircraft, also these missiles are on the HKP3C And it is at 7.7, seeing as this bugger can carry a lot more in addition i feel its kindoff fair. But I can only say for sure if and when it is in war thunder

The Bantam Cessna trying to aim its 2 early ATGMs as 5 trillion tracers rain down on it

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+1 pls , I can’t imagine how amazing it would be if it was added to the game it would be fantastic!