SAAB JAS 39E/F Gripen - General discussion

holy…

Gaijin is afraid of western CM tech

Probably a bit more lift but knowing gaijin it would just be visual cause they wouldn’t care about trying to actually give a damn about aw den air unfortunately

You forgot that they would also increase its drag a little… obviously

They’d also manage to increase weight again

Not if the devs have anything to say about it lol

Isn’t it only to max weight?
From what I understand, the nerf is only a completely clean Grip-E with max fuel, so the fuel is heavier, not the plane.

no its empty weight that got changed

Weird, again, I don’t have any source atm, just from memory, the weight of the empty Grip-E is correct but the max weight was too low, but IG it makes sense for gaijin, just nerf it entirely cuz screw Sweden 🤷

Now you’re getting the bug triage philosophy lol

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It all makes sense when you start with the basis of “Screw Sweden, nerf it”

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no the max weight was too low because its empty weight was to low

the weight of a certain volume of fuel dosent just change

Well thats what the report was about, too low weight at max fuel, not too low vehicle weight

the ammount of max fuel dosent change and neither does the weight of it

and the only thing left at that point is the weight of the airframe

I don’t think you’re understanding what I’m saying

We have a given weight for the Gripen E at full fuel
and if the weight ingame at full fuel is lower that can only mean two possible things:

  • the empty weight is too low or
  • its missing fuel

but ~700kg of aviation fuel is about 870 liters which is more or less the size of a small to medium sized drop tank

from what i could find during a very surface level serach is that the gripen e cam carry 40% more fuel than the Gripen C

which lines up with the ammount of fuel the gripen e has in comparison to the gripen c ingame

The report was on empty mass. The brochure that was most likely used had empty mass of the 39E at 8000 kg

The datamine showed that the Gripen E had a mass of 7100~ before being raised up to nearly 7800

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then it is still to light


this weight is with pilot, oil and ammo
but without fuel

also found the report

seems like another brochure was used
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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/TwLJ9Buwn7so

If the total fuel mass is correct which is 3400 kg, subtracting 11400kg (mentioned in the report) from 3400kg (from the supposed brochure used) knocks it down to 8000

There’s this brochure stating Gripen E facts with similar, if not, same values. I think there’s no way in attempting a revert the change and we’ll have to suck it up.

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