Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

man, you must be awful at the game if u think that?

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That is a double edged sword way of thinking. I have been shitting pretty hard on BMPTs the last week or so, big cannon will just win over ATGM+autocannon in most situations.

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Man, it hurts to see the 2A7V be so much slower than the 2A4… when the whole point of reduced top speed was that it reaches its 0 - 31 and 0 - 60 in the same time frame as the 2A4 (mind you, with the mine plate)… thanks Gaijin for nothing ever.

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The flip side to this is the fact that Thermals have been made to be split into three categories. This means things like 2nd and 3rd gen thermal imaging on russian tanks which are noticeably a worse quality than Nato mbts isnt shown in game. Which is realistically a buff for them not a nerf.

The autoloader isnt really all that deadly its been if nothing else a buff to the survivability of the tank as it can eat spall and does not generate spall acting as a spall liner dedicated to the ammo within, as well as destroying it if you are reloaded still gives you a shot at the enemy and its inclusion prevents the addition of a turret basket which is arguably far worse loose as you pretty much loose any ability to fight back with it gone especially with how often your engine also gets taken out. Not to mention the autoloader repairs faster than the drive. So its kind of a buff and keeps it from getting the turret basket.

The reliance on ERA isnt a downside especially when said ERA noticeably has issues with overperforming and stopping things it shouldnt be able to like the side ERA on tanks eating Darts at an almost surprisingly normal rate, not to mention the way its implemented gives the ERA far more coverage than it realistically should have giving the russian tanks some of the smallest weakspots in the game which is crucial in game mode defined by close quarters combat where having smaller weak points is far more beneficial.

Not getting into the details of 3bm60 not being a massed produced round and shouldn’t be present on a lot of tanks, honestly the rounds not that bad. Anything above 550mm of penn basically has the same performance with weakspots really only getting marginally bigger on tanks at the upper end of rounds. 3bm60 can what go straight through the front plate of basically anything that isnt the leopard or another T series tank, but then again dm53 cant either as the leopard is the best tank at top tier. so I don’t really think its round is hard to work with and I play china so I get it.

The reload time sucks I understand that, but I guess the only upside is that its consistent so if you do kill your enemies loader you will out reload them more than likely and if the enemy isn’t in a maxed out tank you might out reload them aswell.

The reverse speed sucks there aint nothing more to say about that.

But honestly with the map size and how the game plays out currently I don’t think russia’s top tier mbts are particularly bad tanks I think they are rather good tanks with the small map sizes where they don’t feel the effects of having a lower penn round and have small weakspots with decent survivability, not to mention gajin doesn’t add munitions and such that would make the ERA on these tanks less effective if not useless in order to keep the them balanced.

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Depends completely the position of the BMPT if he’s turret poking then good fking luck. They’ve been absolutely shredding my leclercs and ZTZs overall.
my abrams and leos I don’t have too much of an issue with em.

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Sucks to face them in the Abrams because of the turret ring tbh.

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Yeah this is true. From my experience the Challenger 2s and Merkava Mk.4s seem to be the best MBTs when it comes to dealing with BMPTs.

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Chally 2F / TES / OES are great because their LFP NERA and side NERA packages makes it almost impossible to kill other than through the tracks, breech, and roof armour.

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Russian top tier needs a button to win the game right after spawn.

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I don’t let it get to that point TBH, I either get them and move on, or hit em and bail.
Basically if it knows where you are due to the obscene amount of damage it’s 30MMs are doing it will shred you, be it Abrams or anything else.

The Leopards i can survive a bit longer but not really what I want to be after.
Their sheer firepower is what I use VS the BMPT.

They absolutely wrecked my BN and 2E frontally a couple weeks back man.
I’ve found for myself the mobility of the 2A5 /6 or Abrams allows me to get in and out.

The 30MMs should not be doing the work they are doin either TBH, the 30MM on the BMP2M does less and it has a dart xD

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30mm APDS does more damage than 30mm APFSDS, so it kinda makes sense.
Though the BMP-2M has higher firerate of APFSDS than BMPT’s APDS due to how its belt is layed out, so I think they’re mostly equal.
The other difference is that BMP-2Ms can only shoot for so long before it explodes by the enemy, unlike with the BMPTs, which can shrug off most shots unless they specifically aim for the LFP / drivers port / road wheel (which is especially cancerous to try and do before they shoot your barrel all while they blind you).

it makes literally no sense though ? the 30MM adps has lower pen, has different modifiers and by the games own standards should do less.
IT should also not be able to penetrate the tanks it is which was more my point.
the BMP2M tbh is pretty pathetic I don’t really have issues with it, years ago sure it was a pain.

And there we once again come to the root of the BMPT issue, the damn thing just wont die, I’m by no means a pro player, I am also by no means a bad player either. And these things just refuse to die.

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Does the BMP-T APDS suffer from shell shatter like other nations?

yes, its the same apds as on bmp2 and that one shatters a lot

The thing is, i cant see the god damn bmts when they are blasting my face with 30mm and i kinda need to aim for weekspots on them. Weak spots which are real finicky what angle theyll let you get away with as with that extra armour on the lower plate you can get volumetric ed quite a bit hitting its lip and so on.

Doesnt help when i get over pressured by an atgm hitting my track or it just penning me because TES side skirts dont work against russian missiles.

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Aye but fired from the BMPT it appears to do substantially better xD

surely a coincedence))
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Who knows in this day in age
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Ragebait used to be believable.

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