Russian top tier tanks need a fair buff

FT was basically the first tank with a modern layout too. Driver up front, turret between them and the engine, with firewalls to separate the crew and the engine. Earlier tanks just shoved everyone together with the engine and said “ah they’ll be fine probably”

Most of the nerds are towards western tanks like the turret basket, and the blow out panels being removed while Russian vehicles hardly get any nerfs. I’m not hating on Russia I just think that enough is enough and Russia needs major nerfs every now and then.

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so tell me, smart buddy, wtf would u nerf from Russia that isn’t CAS?
that’s the only good thing they have, if u nerf that then they have nothing.

Trunnions that eat all spall while creating none (do it for all trunnions while also adding it for everyone else). Give the BMPT its turret basket, remove the anti spall armour around the turret basket of russian tanks (not the actual spall liner just the armour around it that its it for no reason). Just a couple of the top of my head.

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The overperforming Relict ERA needs to be nerfed to make it more reasonable too. And the laughably unrealistic pinpoint accuracy of Russian autocannons, especially the lack of wobble on BMPT barrels which is clearly visible in IRL video footage but conveniently not reflected in game.

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Blowout panels are still very much functioning though.

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There are too many conditions where they outright fail(more than 3 HE rounds, Ammo Door punctured, during a reload etc.), considering their actual internal layout segregates warheads from the fighting compartment even with the door open due to the design.

A carriage swing gate secures each individual Shell stub into an armored cylinder that is inset into an internal firewall with them on the far side that has a direct path to the Blowout Panel, as the path of least resistance, also The propellant deflagrates, so Pressure is not instantly built.

And provably successful test footage vs known ammo loads(24 KE+ 10 HE, rounds)
And the 105 Abrams should have a Blowout panel for Hull ammo too.

They have been steadily made less and less reliable over time.

After the first nerf they were fine, functional but situationally helpful. (If the ammo bulkhead is broken it doesnt work, and its open for 3s during the old M1 abrams 5s reload)

The second and third nerfs were uncalled for. (HEAT/HESH/HE in the ammo rack makes it not work+number of shells loaded can make them not work)

The most recent nerfs are just making tanks with them basically no different to tanks without them.

This one is basically a Gaijin invention. There’s footage from the certain eastern country, showing a Leopard 2A4 that suffered a blow-out panel knock-off, where basically the whole load was HE and HEAT shells and… the tank didn’t blow up.

I’m fairly positive this was done to make Western tanks simply easier to kill, not for “historical reasons”, otherwise Gaijin should’ve looked into insensitivie propellants/warheads that were specifically designed to keep the blow-out panels from failing after a detonation of HE munitions…

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If such a mechanic is ever introduced I’ve got evidence for a fair number of additional shells that could be added to most 105, 120 & 155mm guns (and certain aircraft ordnance and balancing various explosives, but that has a lot less of an impact on gameplay) that are IM compliant.

trunnions so the breech isnt inpennetrable and the relikt to an extent so u can actually one shot a t90m from the side with a dart

Relikt not being vulnerable to missiles with Tandem war heads.

Brimstone should rip through Relikt, it doesnt because Gaijin have buffed and made it immune to tandem warheads.

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Hilarious considering they removed that feature rather quickly from the TES after the first dev server. It used to have a more correct 1300mm of ce protection but people complained and it was reduced to 400. Only recently being “buffed” to 500 ce as if that meant anything.

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don’t do trunnions nulify the capacity of the tank for aiming vertically? i don’t understand what problem u have with them, and if u aim for the turret of russian tanks, u’re doing something wrong.

it already has autoloader.

if u can prove they don’t have anti spall armor around the “turret basket” then sure, if not, stop crying.

Isn’t Relikt literally stated to protect against Tandem warheads?

The guy near the start of this thread who proved all of this lol. Literally just scroll up my guy. And the reason nobody shoots russian turrets is due to this trunion bullshit, its why im asking for it to be fixed as it does buff them considerably when you should be able to easily pen a russian breach with anything better than dm 33.

u know there’s an external part of the tank called “barrel”, right? and if u’re aiming to the turret of a russian tank, u’re doing something wrong, the main weakspots are the driver’s port and LFP, not the turret.

Relikt can be penetrated by APFSDS, dude, it’s just it doing it’s own actual job: destabilizing an APFSDS to break it’s penetration capability.
it should obviously get fixed/“nerfed” but it doesn’t look like it’s that hard to actually pen a T-90M from the side.

Considering i havent had a situation where an autoloader hasnt blown up when ive shot it "apart from russian autoloaders of course) i think it most certainly has been introduced.

They dont, I shot t72b breech today, it became yellow but commander died. Then guy just erased me with 1 shot.
Kinda find it weird that shots meant for breech fail to kill breech but somehow kill crew near that breech

It should destabilise it when hit at an angle, the problem being that the era will basically nullfiy 90% of the pen of a round as well as its damage if you hit it flat on where it should basically do nothing.