I just said it would be good to see the module that made the turret of the t90 spin in a loop added in WT, we just know that module got destroyed in pair with the optics when the bradley shot at his optics so there must be something there that got destroyed and made the turret do that. Never said that bradley can pen the ufp of t90 i know that would be impossible even with apfsds,but it is for sure that even if T series doesnt have a turret basket they could ad this as the “turret basket” i mean, it does the same, in both options u lose the total control of your turret, but in the T series would be funny to see them qith their turret spining in a loop xd
Yep, u are totally right about that
Well optics were lost but that is like in more than 40 shots hitting the 90m in the turret area eventually with that many shots in optics it is a gurantee tha no tank optic will be left standing no matter what tank it is. Then you will have to rely on regular sights no thermals.
I don’t see where Swedish tank trials and L27A1 are related.
Which beg the question that: is a shopping report should be considered more legit than a MOD report?
Yes yes,but im just saying that it would be fun to see the same module that made the malfunction of the turret of the t90 in game. The problem is that i think that seems a lil bit classified so we wont see that in WT unless they decide to inventing internal modules in places that doesnt exist
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The size of the L27A1 is not greater than M829 A1 shell nor does it pen more, if fired from the front it wont pen the frontal armor of 80U it has less penetration than it so logically it wont pen the 80 U frontal plate.
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They can do that sure but to all tanks.
Man, it has been 2 months since i decided to stop playing the US since the abrams in game are not that good, i dont play them anymore since im enjoying the leopard 2 and ill almost start enjoying the mighty power of the t80, but man, i think that if u add that to the abrams there wouldnt be any reason to play it, it is sad to see how the only thing that is good in abrams is the ammo and the mobility, dont give him more nerfs please xD
(Im saying this because 2 months ago i got traumatized when i saw how a single 30mm apds to my turret ring destroyed the turret ring, the turret basket, my cannon breach, the transmission, my commander and the engine)
You should grind out the M1A2 Sep V3 it is probably the best tank in game right now performs great.
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Yeah i heard that the armour in that abrams feels actually like biblicaly accurate abrams armour. But idk, i would have to grind the entire Sep family i didnt even bought the m1a2 because i dont want to cry with the stock experience without lrf and good apdsfs until rank4 of modifications against a world with spaced armour and Relikt ERA
Nevermind i just saw it does have stock apfsds and lrf is now at rank 3, ill try it (one year ago it wasnt like that, was it? I dont remember it to have stock apfsds)
Have you read the MOD’s CHARM 3 report?
Yes but its penetration is stated to be around 700mm of pen upper plate of 80 U is at around 750mm.
Real-life evaluations, such as U.S. and allied assessments in the 1990s, showed that the T-80U’s frontal armor equipped with Kontakt-5 explosive reactive armor (ERA) could successfully defeat or degrade the penetration of the American M829A1 120mm APFSDS (“Silver Bullet”) shell. [1, 2, 3]
But you said 700mm earlier?
while the report said it could pen over 700mm
However, do you have official RU MOD report for Kontakt-5?
I really need that official 750mm report for research.
UK MOD maybe lying with these reports.
The report states that it exceeds without explaining how does it exceed those when the total shell is 660mm in length that can not penetrate higher end steal with composite materials exceeding 700mm can only be achieved on steal of t-62 and t-72 tanks which use lower grade steal than 80U.
I dont have any RU sources that can only be supported by players who come from that region or some one who has knowledge of such tests. Again we are talking about frontal pen at 0 degrees like in game not when there is elevation difference between the two tanks and different angles. If chally has highet advantage then it can pen the 80U with kontakt 5 on it.
So M829A1 is a 680mm x 22mm penetrator that according to test reports failed to defeat K-5 equipped vehicles during testing.
L27 is a 605mm x 26mm penetrator, how exactly is this inferior APFSDS projectile going to defeat the same threats that M829A1 cannot?
It’s not unreasonable to expect the document to not have a full understanding of the T-80U’s protection levels at that time.
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su22m3 buff when?
It’s too small in-game and primary docs says it can pen the UFP, period.
I’m not denying that Type 10s and other Japanese tanks are better than Abrams, but the consistent 3-4 second reload speed is a good advantage for them.
Yes, I’m not the greatest player, my win-loss and K/D for Abrams is absolutely in the lower section but IMO it’s because all my teammates decide to leave and they won’t help. But Japanese tanks are very easy to kill. Their APFSDS rounds are not as good, nor is their armor, so most of the time they would only need one round. If they do survive, there’s probably enough damage for the gunner/commander to be out and the autoloader as well. And that gives me another chance to kill them. I find it as a free target as long as my tiny ball of fat in my head decides to react.
So, I also agree that Type tanks are worse than Abrams, but they still have good mobility and their hydropneumatics suspension, which may prove worthy in long-range maps (as we know, is 90% of all maps) and they can do a 3-4 second reload consistently.
As for them (if they do) implementing the 2-second reload on Abrams and other tanks, I do understand now that they would impact the Japanese tanks significantly, but I still hold strong that they should add that feature to the game. Obviously they need to balance it, so the best way I believe is by adding a small time period where the gunner opens the door to the ammo and would make them vulnerable.