Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

Idk I’ve never had to do that, only times I’ve bounced even with crap APFSDS is when I hit pretty much every single ERA plate.

Bleh 🤮 that tank makes me sick. It’s so bad.
Might’ve been good when it first came out, but there are many many things that can just look at it and delete it.

Good option would be the 10.3 T-80UD, but that too has its draw backs, still, it’s a better tank.

Maybe lay off the war thunder for 1 week and take a reading comprehension class because

i did literally answer your question. yet you didnt answer mine and instead moved the goalposts to tanks probably because you realized that russia does in fact not get nerfed over player complaints and also is more than competetive in every other regard. Which also has nothing to do with my skill whatsoever since both of these things should be easy to proof for an apparent war thunder god like you

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Does the UD have the upgraded drivetrain

lol I didn’t move goal posts, I just don’t care to do all your homework, go look back at all the change logs, and all the major update. They’re all available for you, don’t be lazy now.

Also, you very much generalized saying all were mid, a lot are bad, some are good, some are mid.

The only true thing Russia is competitive in, is Helicopters, thanks to Aim-120C, Russia has lost its competitiveness in air, but the western pilots who fly high continue to get shot down due to their own poor tactics.

In naval, USA is the best all rounder and Japan is better than Russia. Germany has spots where it’s better and worse.

not really, the ammo carosuel is really unreliable with ammo detonations, and even if you get the autoloader it cant return fire, especially in the case of the leo and abrams which have the nerfed turret ring, meaning return fire is never possible

No, it has a T-72 drivetrain. No thermals, just the T-80U body / turret.
3BM42 is nice though.

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I bet to differ I can still kill in an abrams with a stuck turret, T series on the other hand, the breech is often blown out with the auto loader. Or at the least the the loader is broken on roof hits.

There is cases where your dart flys through the loaders empty compartments doing no damage as it should, or, you get hit by one tiny bit of spall and the whole thing breaks. Then you have a 26 sec repair at ace crew if I recall correctly.

Any time I have hit T series ammo they explode, and often, but not always even merely hitting fuel makes the tank explode.

You did, “other nations are better in every regard” vs “yeah show me an example of an op tank” pretty much a muster example.

Did that. My lowly not everything at top tier having brain couldnt find any thats why i hoped a giga war thunder player like you could enlighten me. Someone as knowledgable and smart as you for sure knows some examples from the top of his hat

Huh i wish there was a word to generalize a group of things in which some are bad, some are good and some are middle

Sure they are totally in the gutters at SPAA, light tanks are unusable, The SU30 performs terrible at air rb and the best ship is british

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assuming your mobility still works and neither tracks were hit by dshk rounds or the shot didnt pen the hull, which guarantees the engines knocked out also, or if you were shot in the turret mantlet / ring / cheeks / roof that all of your turret crew is still alive and neither the horizontal drive, vertical drive, breech, is broken, or if the broken ammo bustle detonates because gaijin doesnt know how it works.

i feel like the autoloader being shot with a 120mm tungsten shell would make enough spall to detonate the nearby shells, but gaijin made it so the autoloader doesnt make spall, so that makes it infinitely more durable

ace crew on my abrams is 50s to repair the ring, drive, and engine, which is what usually gets damaged

They do know how it works, people are incorrectly reading what they said. Upon internal penetration from the crew compartment into the ammo compartment, it wasn’t killing the crew via the blast or fire.

The loader does spall. If there is no shells and you hit thread the needle through all the claps where the ammo is held, then no spall.

50 secs for what 2 red crew and everything broken?

like i just said, a full crew and all theyre repairing is the turret ring and the engine block is around 50 seconds (engine, transmission, horizontal drive, radiator)

They dont, i read the literal operators manual and have seen videos of a specifically HEATFS ammo blowout, and the turret bustle doesnt destroy inside the tank. If the firewall is broken, yes, but if it isnt HEATFS is perfectly safe to load. Gaijin doesnt know how blowouts work.

Nah no way. My fully broken tank with an expert full crew only took 36 secs

You don’t know what they were talking about

They’ve flagged me, tripod, Motorola, and others.
It happens.

That’s a mistake. You need to look up the jargon used in the documents and work out an understanding of what they mean.


Google’s your friend.
On top of Tripod’s post right after your’s.

There is however mounted with Vikhr’s on the inner pylons, which means all 4 store positions are wired for ATGMs. Now, whether signaling is shared or not I’m not going to claim.

The irony is if Mi-28NM was limited to 4 instead of 8, it’d be 0.3 - 0.7 BR lower than AH-64E and other F&F missile carriers after decompression.

Kh-38ML is the most powerful version.
Kh-38MT is weaker than Kh-38ML both in-game and IRL, and it’ll only get weaker in-game after LOAL is added and it’s coded correctly.
It’s currently weaker in-game because ML doesn’t require LOS to fire while MT does.
You can fire ML on a GNSS position, then pop up for the final lasing.
You can’t do that with MT.

Su-30, Su-35, and Su-27 space between the engines are the same.

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that means exactly nothing, the two missiles are hugely different, also laser/beam riding weapons are known to need very simple wiring while IR guided ones need a lot more

doesnt matter, there is no evidence that they can use the double racks

ERA has saved Soviet tanks a total of zero times from my shots.
I guess it’s magic in that it gives the player minor comfort until their turret flies.

ERA has never eaten shots from the side. Overlapping armor, roof armor, and tracks are not ERA blocks.
Every time I see video of someone’s claim that ERA ate their round, it wasn’t the ERA but the previously mentioned sources. Though one time it was a road wheel that ate someone’s round.
The ERA doesn’t under-perform to my knowledge.
It obviously does not over-perform.

Neither of us can know that because we don’t have the documents necessary, and wouldn’t be able to share it anyway.

Also the photographs above within the spoiler clearly show double pylons on an Su-35/30 undercarriage. I cannot confirm if Su-27SM has that undercarriage IRL as well as I haven’t found a confirmed photo yet.

Here’s the Su-30SM and Su-35 undercarriages though: Su-35 has significantly larger wings which adds notably more fuel as well. About 11.5 inches each side of added wingspan.

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yes we absolutely can know that the data transfer needed to use beam riding missiles is much simpler than what is needed for IR guided missiles with MITL controls

doesnt matter, even if they were outwardly identical it would not meet gaijins normal standards for a weapon to be added

It does meet the standard perfectly.
Photograph is and has always been one of the standards.
The photograph is of an Su-30/35 undercarriage, it explicitly shows 4x R-77s between two engines on offset double racks.

The photos of the Su-30 and Su-35 undercarriage show they are identical store positions.
The claims of Sukhoi have the avionics of Su-35 and 30SM being at least extremely similar.

That is more information available than how we got flares on F-5As, Magic 2s on the wet pylons of Mirage 2000 [that one was the most difficult proof we had to do], and many others.

Now, if you have a photo to prove/disprove Su-27SM, you’re more than welcome to share with the class. Until then, any claims about Su-27SM’s center store positions without photos are not going to help.

Don’t lie to my face man It might be an issue with volumetric or some other wild spaghetti code but ERA definitely eats kinetic shots