how so
They have tandem HEAT and we all know how that is modelled in this game
Slower than KH38
I mean if the quantity is the issue they could be limited, but considering the gripen got almost 20 glide bombs, i don’t really see this being an issue
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They are slower, carries less explosive mass and can be easily interceptable unlike KH38.
Not to mention they can always limit them to carry 6 missiles only.
This excuse is so lame, how many times have you noticed Kh-38/LMUR has been fired to you and managed to smoke it in time?
Gaijin can also add spectral smoke’s to tanks that can counter MMW guidance system.
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Your point about skill level makes no sense.
You could say the exact same thing about Russian tank. Only bad player gets hit in the first place, therefore value of armor is only for bad player.
Despite this, Leo2a5/6/7 has better armor than Russian tank. You can never pen roof or above mantle, and the turret wraps around the sides.
Your stats are 0.9 in everything except the 2a7 hu at 1.8 or something, how is that possible if RU tank is “ok” ? ?
Enough times for me not to ever want MMW in game
My stats are like 1.0 in most things lmao put some respect on it. But I don’t really care for my stats it means nothing to me, people who think stats mean something are just dumb.
That was my entire point about the player skill argument was that you can argue everything is or isn’t a factor based off of skill and its pointless to argue it. I.E you can’t say armor isn’t a factor because a skilled player will get past it because then I can just argue Mobility or firepower isn’t a factor because a skilled player will just prevent you from using it.
Idk even know what your third point is multiple times I explicitly state the Leopard family as being the best tanks in the game?
If you noticed I don’t play russian vehicles so why my kd would be a factor is strange well except the t80u for sweden which I also notably have a higher than 1.0 kd in its also important to note I play that tank exclusively at top tier so its a pretty good.
The overwhelming majority of MBTs used in tournaments are NATO, the majority of those NATO MBTs being used are the M1A2s and Merkava Mk.4s.
So that alone is a pretty compelling argument that armor is pretty useless against skilled players.
Cool the fun fact the game has 2000 matches going on and almost none of us are tournament skilled players as well as the meta for tournaments is vastly different than the meta for general matches.
EDIT: the Merkava’s aren’t exactly fast tanks but they do have good firepower and armor/survivability.
Lets be honest, unless you’re watching the sky as an SPAA you will not notice any KH-38/LMUR launch until you see the first kill feed.
Exactly, but I have survived a fair few LMUR/KH38 runs because I could smoke after seeing the first person die in the killfeed (still hate both missiles though).
The MBT meta isn’t really that much different between tournaments and ground RB. It’s just that tournaments are a small scale (4v4) and you rarely get to see the true MBT meta because of KH38/LMUR/BMPTs being dominant.
Great Mobility + great firepower + questionable armor (Abrams) always beats meh-mediocre mobility + meh-mediocre firepower + decent-great armor (T-90M/T-80BVM) in the hands of skilled players.
The easiest solution now is to make it a mirror match every game.
I mean, don’t most tank smokes come with chaff now ?
thought i read it somewhere but not too familiar with the subject i’ll admit
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won’t solve the core issue.
Still unfair to those who haven’t grinded this particular tree, and you stay dependant on team mates line up if you decided to not play russia
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Thats where spectral smokes comes in handy, their nature allows them to block MMW guidance.
Gaijin can just simply swap couple codes for smoke grenades before adding MMW systems.
No, that would still not solve the core problem.
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Considering his idea about balance AKA he doesn’t care as long as Russia has advantage I’d say his opinion matters little.
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If they did that I wouldn’t have anything against MMW, the problem is that I don’t trust Gaijin to add those things at the same time.
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I mean sooner or later more advanced weapon/guidance system will be added.
They already opened the pandora box, its only matter of time to see those systems.
Best thing to do is to add counter solutions for them.
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with the proper seeker you can fire them without LOS and you can’t use smoke to hide.
tank meta is practically the same in tournaments compared to normal matches.
The only difference is tournaments have a spotting system and CAS isn’t a problem as well as it being 4v4 and usually having non-garbage players on either side. Resulting in the advantages and disadvantages mattering a little more.
I really doubt Gaijin will ad NLOS variant with LOAL. Same reason they are holding back F&F weapons
Ideal solution is to nerf CAS, make it actually harder to spawn (increase sp cost + reduce scouting rewards), add heli rotor RCS, nuke LDIRCM overperformance and give SPAAs room behind spawns to hide and have cover in.
I’d also love to see UAE S1 for something like Germany (S1 turret on German truck chassis)
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