Uh no…?
USA gets:
M3 Bradley
Xm246
T58
T54E1
M60A2
M60 AOS
F-86-F-35
A-2D-1
That is an insanely good lineup.
Russia:
T-55A
T-10M (really crap)
Mi-4 but is kinda crap too.
IL-28
I literally can’t think of any other 8.3 Soviet vehicle.
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(Actually just curious cus why not)
How many of you have been taken out by a hammer?
(Only have USA Ground at top tier for now so i don’t remember ever getting killed by them)
- Yes
- No
- Probably but can’t remember
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I was taken out by 2 hammers, 2 Kh-38s, and over 5 AGM-65D/G missiles in the last few years.
The way I position myself makes it difficult for CAS to spot me let alone get a launch solution.
I almost typed 1 Hammer until I remember one fragged my Pantsir on Attica.
A fixed Hammer wouldn’t be that worse though
Against tanks sure, but against SPAAs ? not really. You would not need LOS to your target anymore, just point the general Spawn area with GPS, and send them in.
This means 2 things :
- Rafale is less exposed
- Missile now flies lower, and has a lower chance of getting intercepted in time
Regarding the “tank” issue, one could use a mix of laser Hammers and IR Hammers.
And here you have it, back to square 1. I won’t argue Rafale being balanced, cause it’s not (here, see ? Not that complicated to admit a vehicle of your main nation is unbalanced), but it mainly comes from Air RB and MICA (which by the way isn’t really “overperforming” considering what is known), it was just added too early.
it’s no where near as strong in a CAS role compared to LMUR or KH38 slingers, one of which is based on a missile that is not proven to exist, the other relying on a force field (both against IIR, but also ARH) that defies the laws of physics
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So, not even a couple days after launch and the FOTM is starting to wear off. I was playing the 2A7 today and holy, Russian teams are getting STOMPED.
I have like 10 other screenshots like this, they aren’t even 1DL’ing, just can’t win on the ground because they all spawn CAS and get shat on by SPAA, not to mention their bottom of the barrel tanks.
I don’t know man team up with US and China all of them having best new FnF heli with magic missile shield still lose because of some tanks
It literally on them.
Lol two went 1-5 and one 0-4, truly the definition of feeder lol but hey, when your tank sucks this happens a lot more often right?
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These players are straight bots. Also, people have realized these Helis have DIRCM and are spawning SACLOS SPAA to counter them.
Having FnF heli with DIRCM still got counter by SACLOS? lol that definitely on them not because their line up suck or anything.
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Yes, and ARH + IOG missiles still work well. The CAS is good, everything around it isn’t. (Excluding SPAA, those are fine)
And, tanks win games, not CAS.
No i mean FnF heli that still got countered by SACLOS seem they don’t bother dodging missile at all.
then it’s not enough of them or CAS pilot just straight up bad.
Spawning CAS is a net negative to the team.
China and USA MBTs definitely carried the Soviet team, and obviously MBTs carried the match in general.
How many losses will it take for people to realize that CAS saturation loses matches for the CAS players.
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You can’t exactly dodge them, just have to position in a way where you only pop out for a couple seconds, otherwise you’re kinda toast.
I mean, planes can’t cap points.
That exactly most heli pilot has been doing before they even get FnF missile.(most that know how to play heli that is)
But single jet can wipe out 1/4 of the team or more give team chance to push forward that is if pilot know what they’re doing.
Thing is, there is no team on the ground with Russia.
No no you forgetting the “logic” here if Russia loses it’s still the bias.
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That definitely on players not because Russians or US line up sucks or because of strv 122 or 2a7
Russian tanks are just far too inferior when competing against NATO vehicles. There was also like 3 US players on that team that I counted.
Tanks alone don’t win the match nowadays it combines line up is if it tank only mode I believe Sweden would wipe the floor with anyone else due to having three best MBT but this isn’t the case Russian tank is okay i don’t say it far inferior but it good enough to hold its own but other aspect in their line heli? CAS? SPAA? They’re among the best having trouble beating Leopard? bomb them then with new FnF heli or KH-38 like their IRIS-T can do anything against MI-28 DIRCM.