What’s that got to do with anything regarding Rafale’s fictional performance ?
Yeah rafale’s, I dont see a source stating that Hammer should only be able to lock at 1.5km away from target
That’s because you aren’t looking for it, as it doesn’t concern you for some reason. NATO’s overperforming stuff is hidden in plain sight, but people choose to ignore it and concentrate on bashing RU for the same exact thing.
This paragraph below is copied from Gunjob’s comment on another thread.
So moving targets.
Lets get a few things out of the way, AASM can clearly target a tank sized target, there is enough secondary information that calls out vehicle sized targets.
What does this targeting looks like?
Well. Lets play out an engagement;
Rafale with Hammer.
- Uses TGP to upload target data for a tank at a specific location.
- Comes into LOAL range.
- Fire.
- Hammer is now on its own.
- Hammer arrives at target basket 1.5km over the pre-planned target area
- Hammer begins terminal approach
- First IR image is taken shortly after entering the basket, ~1.0-1.2km to impact.
- Course correction now happens for the new target location over the next 500m of distance traveled.
- Correction complete for 1st Acquisition
- Second IR image is taken, ~600m to impact.
- Course correction now happens for the new image.
- Correction complete for 2nd Acquisition
- Impact
There are only two chances for a course correction, along with the distance needed for those course corrections. Each time its a static image, with no target vector or speed measurement, so each update will be to a new static location. A target moving with enough speed would outpace the ability for Hammer to provide updated locations with any hope of accuracy.
If it was a static tank that had moved to a new parking spot or a TEL thats been relocated to a new location this tracking method would ensure impact. But if those targets are actively moving, there is no chance.
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withholding something is entirely different to wrongly modeling a weapon due to balance concerns tho.
I sincerely doubt that the overperforming seeker on the Hammers is responsible for Rafales rising popularity in air rb
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9.3 and 9.7 always go to 10.3 and 10.7.
The premiums always push it up :(
It’s not saying that the first IR image is taken at 1.0-1.2km, it is saying that the first IR image is taken at 1.5km and then completed around 1.3km where a target is acquired. Note that the paper says the seeker takes two sets of images. Not two images.
As I said earlier it uses two sets of images, and throughout it can compensate after the target has been acquired.
At 1.3km away and 600m away, there isn’t enough movement for most vehicles ingame to get away from the missile.
Plus, not sure how it’s a nerf when in the future you’ll be able to fire the AASM without getting close or without needing to visually acquire them since the AASM can automatically find targets for you in a predetermined area.
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Bro why are you trying to Ragebait me If you think Serbia and Russia are similar or same same as you say you need to go to a mental hospital
No it’s not as both serve the same purpose.
Doesn’t need to be.
It’s just an example of Rafale’s privileged status.
I’m arguing that Hammer shouldn’t be able to get TRACK lock until 1.5km away. Right now it gets it at ~13km away.
In the current state of the game it would be a substantial nerf.
I didn’t experience a big problem with hammers and i don’t think they need to be nerfed so much. Much bigger problem are Kh-38MT and LMUR on top tier, which are both on russian side surprisengly (no) and they are killing everything and they need a nerf much more then Hammers…
Having the same outcome doesnt make them the same thing.
But thats not what your argument was
You claimed Rafales popularity is partially based on fiction. A overperforming seeker on an A2G weapon is hardly responsible for a higher playrate in Air RB. So Favoritism yes, fiction not so much.
If that’s the case then Pantsir was still reigning over all other AAs.
Russian players are known to have shit WR while having the best of the best, so stats in this case don’t matter, a single match right now against Russia can tell you everything u need to know.
Second best.
They have the “BEST” AA and helicopters not “competitive” they’re way ahead of NATO right now in these categories.
My guess is if they want to drag and drop a spanish F-18 they will give it to Italy eventually, maybe in squad or event rarity, since they just received the 29 Sniper.
Guys how long will patriot be when they add it xd
It does.
The idea behind the both was the same.
And where did you come up with that I’m talking about ARB exclusively ?
The games I’ve looked at before are both Air and Ground combined.
Getting a plane that’s extremely strong at CAP while also having overperforming, 2nd best AGM in the game is definitely enticing.
Yes, hence the title best of the useless ones.
US players are known to have shit WRs as well.
Something being the best of the best is a very subjective term you simply cannot prove.
Debatable.
Guess you mix up your opinions with facts.
Are you imagining it as 1.5km LOAL range rather than LOBL? I doubt devs will ever go for that since that’s unrealistic.
No, 1.5km TRACK range with the same POINT lock range.