Sorry we’re talking about realistic feature in here not fantasy.
Russian tanks doesnt have access to those features in real life while NATO tanks has.
Unlike Russian tanks most NATO tanks armor profile unperforming as well.
Well then armor is the realistic feature of them, why that makes you that triggered?
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The fact that they are overperforming in terms of protection level instead of having realistic values is the problem, not the armor itself.
It’s the sole reason why Russian MBT’s still hold their ground despite their weaknesses, so any claim on how armor is useless is simply coping and lying at this point which some certain people do love to brag about it (not referring to you).
It mogs T-62 in comparision, makes it look pathetic really
Not that it needs to go up it’s that T-62 has no business being 8.7. Same with 435 being 9.0 which is just Object 140 but with a sidegrade if not downgrade of a gun.
They dont really overperform, as their armor is the coverage for their faulties. If anything, the specifications of armor are as much fable on them as on nato side, just balanced to cover for faulties.
Yes, being able to not be oneshotted in any angle any distance is a strength of them. Still, their tanks significantly underperform because of that - the armor isnt as great as 2a7s ans 122Bs, nor as survivability, but the faulties are much more signifcant. So the armor is basicaly a “deadweight” that punishes careless players only, who are minority at top tiers.
- Troll bots
- Undeveloped brains
- Sweat lords
- Devs
Its neither deadweight nor life saver, it’s a thing you would rather have than not, same with good mobility, although that’s smth you have much more control of than your own armour.
If you play USSR try China or Italy for example. While ZTZ’s seem like direct T serie copy pastes if you actually play them you will appreciate the side armour T series have, as well as your LFP being 100/80mm, angled at proper level rather than later ZTZ’s or Ariete
It’s like enjoying being autocannoned frontally.
Im pretty much at my way to obtain China, as it looks to me as just better USSR as of now. I have just one WZ1001 so i’ll grind the ZTZ99 first, and then will try playing it top tier. And im also close to getting the Ariettes of top tier
It is at BR’s like 9.0 or 8.0 or 8.3, 10.3.
Up until the moment you get autocannoned frontally really
They do, base armor overperforms around 15% and its been proven multiple times.
NATO armor underperform so much in certain areas its not even funny.
If Leopard2A7V had its true armor protection you would’ve complain about 24/7 buddy.
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Their tanks doesn’t underperform in any regards, in fact base armor overperforms while ERA always performs on optimal scenarios no matter the angle and the projection which make them stronger compare to real life counterparts.
Enjoy getting penned by 30MM through your driver port because somehow its not modeled volumetric alongside with wrong armor values, transmission ratio’s (on VT-4), lacking spall liners on many tanks and not bein able to ricochet incoming shells with your heavily angled UFP.
Still I like VT’-4’s more than Russian tanks despite their problems tho.
al MBTs get autocannoned tho xD
its been proven with globally avaliable sources within outdated machinery and/or assumptions of “they already tested it frfrfr”.
NATO on the other hand only has documents, by which if we use same “docs only” logic USSR isnt overperforming (well, not much overperforming at least).
I would complain about it anyway, as its the most OP vehicle out there. Then again it doesnt make sense to call it “true protection” if its not proven on the battlefield with real battle and testing, only said by manufacturers in open data.
they sure do. USSR tanks are garbage.
Thanks, i already played T-72 against XM246. I know how that feels.
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Some get autocannoned frontally more than others. Not talking about sights or cannons, speaking of general armour profile. It’s much easier to autocannon ZTZ’s and Ariete compared to T series, even frontally they’re never safe.
Or how T series eventually start getting rid of their turret humps yet chinese show no change
Nobody is safe at AF… and if a CAS plane/heli is able to rearm more then once… well the enemy team deserve to get farmed.
Everyone is safe at AF, as soon you try to get close to strafe enemy jet you will be attacked by aa’s.
CAS planes can safely circle around by using terrain or their speeds to dodge incoming munitions easily while helicopters equipped with LDIRCM doesnt have to worry about any Sam system except SACLOS ones.
It seems you have no idea what you’re talking about.
This isn’t WW2 era… I don’t need to be 400-700 from a plane/helicopter (oh wait helipads don’t have AA’s) in order to shoot it down.
I guess the LDIRCM on my Mi-28NM is broken, because I keep getting shot down by IRIS-T’s…
Not safe from aam, agm, gbu which can be sent from outside of range of those ww2 era aa. If those were rolands/ito90 from sim then this argument would make sense.
I think you should turn away a bit from them to jam their missiles:
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I was “belly up” toward the missile… still hit me… not complaining, the Mi-28NM should’ve never got such big coverege to begin with, just pointing out that the it (and other helis with LDIRCM) are not invulnerable to IR missiles.