Russian Teams Steamrolling NATO - Top Tier is Broken Again?

its not a scam, it just went nowhere. It happens all the time.

Zero evidence of it ever passing the mockup stage.
Zero evidence of it ever actually existing.
Zero credible evidence of it ever being mounted to an aircraft.
Also, by its own marketing brochure, it’s vasly overperforming. The brochure shows it would be suitable for hitting buildings and ships at best, most certainly not tracking a moving tank from 10+km away.

We’ve been over this again and again and again, and not once has any evidence been produced, outsise of photos of the mockup, a brochure from an air show which contains a photo which has what look like the mockups

So yeah, it fails every test for the ‘standards’ gaijin claim to hold for weapons.

tldr - it’s fake, gaijin made it up and got caught.

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Yeah, any mention was removed from the russian site. I believe the english version still has it, probably because they know they’re never selling weapons to the english speaking world for a very long time so just didn’t bother to update it.

SS doesn’t agree.

SACLOS vehicles aren’t in the same league as ARH/IR ones.

Statcard is one thing, real game performance is another.

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So Kh-38ML can exist but MT version is just went nowhere because why ?

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Real game performance is immense, the missile ignores multipathing VIA large proxy, it’s just as susceptible to notching as other ARH SAMs, it’s also the fastest SAM in game (behind starstreak).

Samp/T and sky sabre are far worse at killing the actual aircraft, and specialise in munition interception

So we do still get them if needed.

It is.

So just how adding 16AJ to Japan in order for them to compete is Japanese bias.
Thank you very much.

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Because the KH-38ML is the version that got more investment, passed mockup and went into service.

No one opposes the addition or legitimacy of KH-38ML because it’s a real missile, what’s your point?

Because there is zero evidence the MT version ever existed outside of a mockup.

That is a fundamental requirement for weapons to be added to the game.

They offered it as a proposal, and noone bought it. Either it would have been too expensive, it’s proposed performance wasn’t good enough or other weapons can do the job better in the real world.

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It’s literally modular missile.

So it’s a scam project ?

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If what you said was correct then it would be shown in stats pretty clearly.

Just how it’s shown DIRCM helicopters blow other helicopters out of the water.

It’s literally modular missile.

You need the module to actually install. Furthermore, different weights etc. can cause issues. This isn’t lego, you can’t just plug it in.

So it’s a scam project ?

Scam implies dishonesty. This isn’t that, its just a failed project.

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In one year ?

It’s not, a gap is between 2 things adding something at the top is not filling a gap.

Yeah it kinda was (obviously Japan could have just gotten an F2 but gaijin was lazy or a subtree F16) and like I’ve said multiple time, every country gets bias from time to time but to match the bs Russia gets you have to pull examples from multiple tech trees.

The timescale does nothing to change whether it was a scam or not.

No it’s just missile was shown Zhuhai in 2024 and it’s failed one year leater because War Thunder players didn’t see any documents about it

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If there isn’t anything at top tier then you have a gap at top tier. You arguing semantics doesn’t change anything.

No you don’t.
Japan received more fakes and dubious stuff than RU despite having much less vehicles and popularity.

Again.

MOCKUPS were shown. A working weapon was never shown in any form. The same mockups that have been around for ages.

Ask yourself this :

The russians aren’t shy about showing photos of weapons, or the usage of said weapons in the current war.

We’ve seen loads of stuff, but absolutely nothing about the MT. Why is this? What could the reason be for them being suddenly very shy about this weapon.

The answer is, they don’t have it. Laser version? Sure! IR version? Nope.

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So it’s a scam project ? Why else they would try sell unexisting weapon ?

Probably because they wouldn’t actually develop the missile until they got money from an order. This happens all the time

You clearly do not understand the process that goes on.

Companies offer proposed weapons all the time. A lot of the time, those weapons never come to fruition for various reasons. Just because something appears in a brochure, doesn’t mean it will ever exist.

It doesn’t make it a scam (you seem stragenly focused on that word), its a normal part of weapon development.

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