I think you spelled T80 wrong.
True
Constant 5 sec autoloader is a huge advantage.
True and very important.
Yes and no
It’s not the best reload (Abrams, Chally are near, Japanese are better)
And unlike Japanese or Abrams mbts it gets one of the worst APFSDS for its Br
It’s not a bad tank though, by any means. France’s skill check mainly comes at 1.0 and 8.0-10.0
I’ll say it right now on long range maps i would rate as :
- Strv122
- Leopard 2A7
- M1
- Leclerc
- Type 10
- T-80
- T-90
- Challenger
- Merkava
- ZTZ
- Ariete
On most short range maps though :
- Strv122
- Leopard 2A7
- T-80
- T-90
- Type 10
- Leclerc
- M1
- Challenger
- Merkava
- ZTZ
- Ariete
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Yes at lower Brs
Not so much at higher Brs. Maps are too small and very little difference with the rest : i could bring back the MBT acceleration chart
ZTZ is not better than ariete.
I would say that is more or less how I would rate them for long range, maybe some small changes like moving the Merkava up a little bit.
I think this is overrating the T-90M, the T-90M is just incredibly mid even at close range due to it’s long reload and non-existing reverse speed.
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the ZTZ tanks are the worst at top tier and Gaijin still refuses to fix that. While they have clearly shown that they acknowledge it, no effort has been going towards fixing that. NATO MBTs are the most broken and op tanks in top tier
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As a big Merkava player, Merkava 4M can safely rank up just below Leopard 2A7 on long range maps. It’s better than the Abrams as a long range sniper. Similarly, since they added modules to the Abrams, it’s comfortably above the Abrams in short range.
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Idk why Merkava 4 always gets ranked so low by people, in every scenario except a city it’s very good.
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They also added modules to the Merkava last update though no?
It’s either since last update or currently on the dev server.
Not really, they just added the electric drive at the back of the turret, and a somewhat sizeable turret drive module near the breech. But its nowhere near as a handicap as the turret basket on the Abrams or the Hydraulic pump in the crew compartment.
Also, something that is overlooked a lot in the Merkava is its ability to reverse at 64kph. Really gives you the ability to reverse out of problems fast.
Another feature of the Merkava that could sound like a downside but actually saved me quite a few times both long and short range combat is how ammo is stored in the back of the hull in armored boxes. If you get your turret ammo storage blowout paneled, you can reverse out and still fight. While in the Abrams, you’re out of combat until you can rearm and good luck and if it’s a single cap in the middle.
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Yeah I agree.
Also a lot of people don’t really know where to really one shot the Merkava Mk.4s, even though the spot is super easy to hit.
No? (At least the way I understood it…)
Engine is main power unit, turbine was used primarily for boosts (or as it is said in manual in the post below, when stuck or when crossing obstacles)
[Home Video] Comander View / Autoload and Fire Inside an T-64 Tank#1
Not a myth Komrade, well known facts. I know they can be a bit of an unusual concept where you come from…
T-72s had a bit of a vicious reputation for some truly awful crew injuries. Imagine working in a small turret and that thing snagging a bit of clothing, a bit of an arm, etc. There are no sensors to detect if a foreign object is in the path of the autoloader mechanism. No guards that interlock to ensure crew are out of the way when it does it’s thing.
Of course, I’m sure you have some evidence to refute this. I gladly await your doubtless erudite response.
Although I won’t hold my breath.
I think also the carousel of charges that the crew LITERALLY SITS on without even stowage bins or compartmentalisation is also a paragon of safety. Possibly by Soviet standards, but the rest of the world has moved on a bit…
Edit to add - note how T-90M made some quite considerable changes to the crew’s ability to interact with the autoloader mechanism.
T-90M autoloading and firing at training grounds. : r/TankPorn
Ergo - no bloody great big arm reaching up past the crew (observe the large metal guards that act as a barrier either side of the mechanism in the reddit post above).
Only took them about 40 years…
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It’s not lathe.
Same reason why Abrams or Leopard doesn’t have sensor on a blast door.
The fact that i can use your own “proofs” to disproove your sentsence is depressing.
Well known facts have well known proofs at this moment you gave only assumptions.
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Correct, although in a last ditch effort to find cover when the diesel goes down, the turbine can move the 103 by its self. But of course, that’s an emergency situation, as it said, you risk cooking up the engine.
It can be thought of like a WEP system for tanks.
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I was disgusted by how overpowered Mi-28NM was and couldn’t bother researching all the mods from my T-80s, hence my poor stats on them (I don’t have half the mods on them).
But what’s new with USSR player ? Their tanks are simultaneously the worst and yet they steamroll NATO teams all the time.
What a mystery. It’s almost as if they are painting reality as something it isn’t …
Thats a metal guard it has no interclock…if something gets caught in the way of the loader the gunner will be critically injured it has a history of maiming crew.
That is also a newer tank as the crew member is in MC and not the Flora or EMR…
CAS prices are too low, double the price and watch Russian win rates fall off a fkin cliff.
The tanks are as many have said the top 3/4 so average but not terrible and the differences are quite small.
CAS prices are just right, Russian CAS prices are too low.
You mean to tell me Tiger HAD Block 2 / AH-129D, which cannot even overpressure SPAAs with Spike-ERs, should be as expensive to spawn as a Mi-28NM with x5 LMURs that overpressure MBTs even by missing them by 5 meters and move 4x times as fast ? Please.
Don’t even get me started on DIRCM …
Tiger HAD Block 2 and AH-129D cannot even destroy Mi-28NMs currently because DIRCM prevents Mistrals/Stingers and Spike-ERs to lock. It prevents camera lock as well so even 20mm/30mm chin guns and Hellfires don’t work on them either.
But hey, surely they deserve to be on the same BR range and cost as much to spawn, right?
Anyone claiming Russian MBTs are bad is coping. You can literally keep pressing W and win with them. Only STRV-122s can do that besides Russian MBTs.
Anyone claiming Russian CAS isn’t OP is utterly delusional.
Russia literally rolls over all top tier matches AND YET THAT’S NOT ENOUGH FOR THEM.
They still want better MBTs. It’s that sad.
All Russian players claiming otherwise are so embarassing … The jokes write themselves at this point.
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No increase CAS across the board and make it that only skilled players can access them. In no world is getting a kill and a cap, or a scout and kill should grant you access to Death star the map.
Gaijin like selling premium helicopters and jets and people expect to be able to call them in, but they have ruined the balance and now not even top tier SAMS (we literally cannot get a better system than the IRIS-TSLM, IRL) New Su-30 premium is coming with new missiles (not as good as Kh-38s but they can IOG/GPS them to just smash the spawns and kill SAMs from miles away.
Game is not in a good spot right now.
How do you fix it, well increase spawn cost for all CAS, lower spawn cost for CAP aircraft (without armoured belts etc)
Spawn CAS further away, give the SAMs and CAP aircraft a chance to intercept. Discourage cheap revenge bombing by making the player fly a distance to get there. We don’t have that in game but we do at lower BRs PE-8/Lancasters can and are shot down before they bomb.
make CAS a special thing for good play and not just a certainty. or weaken it by adding APS to tanks and IFVS that should have it
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