Length doesn’t give any advantage today. It’s established. In fact it would’ve been better if tank cannon had lower muzzle velocity. It would help curve the shot in a trench or artillery mode. It reduces dispersion on terrain.
Heat or he russian rounds are good ir better
For a real tank duel to take place, they would have to travel about 10 kilometers and face more than 50 drones.
NATO rounds are are better than Russian rounds. Thats why only the Armata can use 3BM70, it can’t in the traditional autoloader. NATO has developed anti-ERA rounds like M829A4 and DM53
do you know how you can do that
a larger projectile with less propellant, which is something russian tanks cant do as well due to their limits or projectile size
they can very well use less propelant
They use 2 piece ammo. Only the top half can be reduced
and it still could without issue?
i dont see we they couldnt
Only hypothetical in theory not in metal
NATO tank advantages.
FCS, Optics/Thermals, Sensor fusion tanks can talk to each other they can Geo locate what has engaged them or what they have seen and they can automatically track multiple targets. The commander then just switches through them and each one is engaged. (Not brand new, but the system is being updated all the time)
Crew comfort, an FPV drone wont come and drop a grenade on you when you need a poo or to heat up rations. CR2 has that no Russian tank does, situational awareness, CR2 has multiple backup sights. It also has measures so the crew can get their bearings if they need to bail out and not just climb out of a hatch into I don’t know an IFV waiting to shred them.
Track tensioning something as simple as that is done from a control within the drivers area on a CR2 on a T series tank you are using wrenches and bars.
It is only Russia who consider the CR2 a bad tank, Ukraine love them, they want more. But Russia has a real issue with the CR2 and I have never understood why, yes it lags behind the M1A2 and Leopard 2A7
CR3 will improve on the original design and make it one of the deadliest tanks in service.
If we do top trump on stats which too many people do we see.
Top speed - Russia
Fire power - Russia (125mm is larger)
Armour - Russia Relikt ERA can stop anything in the known world.
But when we look at the soft factors of a tank like ammunition storage and crew ergonomics, sensor, thermals, sighting systems Russia falls behind in a big way
to get them stuck in the mud or use them as direct atillery
the challenger is probably the tank with the worst combat record in ukrainian use from all the ones they have gotten
Yes, of course, Putin recently went live on state television and said he can’t sleep because he’s afraid of Challenger 2.
This applies to all weapons that exist in reality.
The Ukrainians said the vehicle is very heavy, difficult to repair, and worse than a humble T-64 for attacking enemy positions, simply because it uses hesh ammunition, as prop redeffect discussed in their video.
The worst combat use they have lost 2 of them. They were the first tanks delivered and have served from Robotye to Kursk. Every tank will get stuck in the mud even T series ones they don’t glide over it.
CR2 can be used as a makeshift artillery because of the fire control system that will allow HESH to be fired over 8km.
Leopard 2 and M1s are more plentiful and are usually more involved with the front line combat.
Can we just remember that Russia does not actively engage Western tanks with their tanks. Did you ever see a Tiger tank scared of an inferior T-34…
someone clearly dosent know about how the german reports described the east front and the t-34
I wonder how many years from now the tank will weigh 100 tons.
RedEffect the pro Russian youtuber…CR2 is heavy and that is a draw back, but putting ERA blocks on a Leopard or M1 brings it to the same weight. The guys who are using the tank the air assault have commended it on it’s accuracy, fire control system, crew comfort and protection.
It is not perfect no tank is but it also isn’t the disaster that it is portrayed online.
I don’t remember who said it, I believe it was Wilhelm Keitel, who said to simply copy the T-34, an idea that was discussed in the German high command. The result was the Panther with its sloped armor. The Panther is only good because it’s a copy of the T-34 with some improvements.
Tigers were not scared of T-34s read Carrius’s book.
With poor visibility many T-34 groups did not know they were engaged until after multiple shots and multiple tanks had been destroyed. They had no internal radios and to see anything have to have the hatches open which was expressly forbidden at the time.
Point is if Russian tanks are superior or equal why do they only come out when they know it is a Ukrainian T-64BV and not an M1/Leopard 2 or even a CR2.