Obj 640, T-90M With its APS system, T80BVM(2023), BMP-T, 2S38 With its ATGM launcher
Obj 640 was leaked to be within the summer, t90M is supposed to have its APS system, BVM 2023 wouldnt be an issue to add its just the same thign with more flush ERA packs and the same APS as the T90M, terminator would be awesome to add tech tree wise we can use more light tanks above 10.0. and the 2S38 with an ATGM launcher would also be a fine addition to the light tank line.
I am mainly wanting object 640, I grew up with it in various early 2000s video games like Battlefield Bad Company as the main russian MBT
For the BVM 2023, what are the upgrades that we can see in game?
The BVM 2023, has the APS system that the T-90M in game is supposed to have, it also features The autoloading system and the 2A46M-5 gun the t90M has which allow it to shoot 3BM59 APFSDS rounds, which theoretically the t-90m in game is extremely inaccurate compared to real life while only having the correct gun modeled in game. and while this would possibly give the new BVM an even worse reload at top tier equivalent of all other T series tanks at 7.1 seconds instead of its current 6.5
edit, it would also include a better transmission with a reverse gear allowing up to -20 kmh
I’m afraid you fall into a huge lie that came from the Reddit. The ‘2S38 with ATGMs’ is not a thing. It’s a completely different vehicle, the combat module is the best example of this difference.
It’s an BRM-3K Kinzhal, Kinzhal refers to the combat module, in the case of the 2S38 is the Bajkal, despite its similarity is indeed something else, the BRM-3K works as an reconnaissance vehicle, 2S38 as a SPAAG.
The Object 640 as a event vehicle doesn’t surprise me neither I’m interested on it, it will play as an T-80U with few major differences in the armor layout and values, other than that it’s the same thing and I’m afraid people will still say the T-80BVM will be the better main battle tank in USSR.
In my opinion USSR needs a proper light tank line til battle rating 12.0, it stopped at battle rating 9.0, which the hole is obvious, also in my opinion, the Kurganets-25 is the great candidate for a top tier light tank option, nothing busted like an T-15 which should be reserved for a major rest with next generation vehicles and concepts (e.g., T-14 and AbramsX).
To the untrained eye that’s what people see, a 2S38 with ATGMs, perhaps it was just a way to explain what it best resembles in game. I can completely understand it.
The 640 is going to be the best tank in the tree, which kinda sucks someone who hates grinding, but it’s nice that it’s coming.
The variant of the T-90M we have in-game doesn’t come with APS. Not every obr. of the 90M has it, much like the BVM.
Not really sure where the Terminator would land on the BR ladder tbh. It’s an ATGM chucker that would be a sitting duck at top tier, but too strong for anything below 11.0.
Which are the same length as 3BM60? Bruh, the 2A46M-5 gun is completely separate from the autoloader system.
tell me you dont understand the mechanisms in which T series tanks can fire woulda been enough instead of a paragraph of yapping proving yourself wrong, The T90M variant we have in game is the same model that has the APS system. The BVM in game has an autoloader that cant carry 3bm59 and its gun also cannot fire 3BM59 but the T90M has both capable parts of doing so. The BMPT is not primarily an atgm launcher, it has a dual 30mm gun system shooting APFSDS rounds. and yes the 3bm59 round is the same length as 3bm60 but the propellant is not, along with the weight and flight characteristics of the main dart producing more penetration, which in this day and age would be a fine addition to the game being equivalent of dm63 in penetration value.
Anyways, 3BM60 and 59 use the same charge. If you have some murky, esoteric knowledge that contradicts what the fucking GRAU index says, feel free to share it. Otherwise, I’m done browsing credible sources for something you probably heard on Reddit.
I’m going to spell this out for you. The main opponent you will be facing at high tiers will be enemy MBTs. The Terminator is not fast enough to reliably flank these vehicles. You will be forced to fight these enemy MBTs frontally much of the time in the Terminator. The 30mm cannons are not sufficient to this task. Your PRIMARY means of dealing with threats will be the Atakas.
im just gonna keep this REAL simple, two vehicles already in game, T-90M and T-80BVM, two different guns, two different autoloaders, BOTH can carry 3BM60, only ONE can carry 3BM59. BVM (2023) has SAME GUN as T-90M and SAME autoloading carousel. therefor CAN carry 3BM59. therefor your argument is just invalid. also the BMP-T main firing source is a dual 30mm autocannon system, Just because YOU use ATGMs in game against targets doesnt make ATGMs its primary source, regardless of them doing more damage than a 30mm APFSDS round would.
Just give me T-72B1MS and i will be good
not even close
have we actually seen proof of this (Not just a video since those can be speed up)
in a war video it was estimated to be -20 and it WAS clearly faster than the current -11 for the BVM in game, but we do know it has a different transmission so it would make sense
That is… interesting. I can’t find a single credible source for that. Got a picture or something? I want to see how they Frankenstein’d the autoloader in.
Clearly we need object 477 and 195
This, but unironically. Can we also have a vis mod of “How it could be have been?” while at it?