Check the black night. Also the base 2 does not gain the composite block. Also consider checking the 2E.
In game? Sure I guess. No equivalence to what I believe of the real vehicles.
Never made any new ones. The BMPT can frontally penetrate the challenger 2 in several positions on the turret and hull. I didn’t even consider the ATGM in this too lol.
While writing this I noticed you don’t have smokes,

so how many matches do you really have in the-

Oh. Shocker. If you consider that good performance at the BR I’ve got some pretty bad news.
I hope to see you actually playing the TES instead of making claims on the basis of less than twenty matches. Consider also that I have over a thousand (checked. It’s nearly two thousand now) matches in the BN alone, and do not own a BMPT.
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Really like that every point here is just factually incorrect
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You’re more than welcome to prove to everyone that Challenger 2 is worse than BMPT.
However, it’s not. There’s no proof.
And I’ll keep shilling for Challenger 2 because it’s a superior fighting vehicle while looking batter.
@Metaltank1990
36.8% of my teams were better than the enemy team. So what? You going to look down on those hundreds of players for losing?
My Chally 2 TES Frags and Deaths went from 2:11 in 2025 to 17:14 as of 2 - 3 days ago, and that’s just playing Britain in-between grinding stock vehicles.
And the primary reason TES was 2:11 to begin with was cause I was stock grinding it at 12.7 against some of the best teams I’ve come across.
Congrats on having more free time than someone that spends ~2.5 hours a day playing War Thunder.
And if you’re going to defend BMPT with all your might, you probably should have the actual argument to back it up.
BMPT: Far worse armament than Challenger 2, T-90M, etc.
Better armor against kinetic rounds.
Slightly worse mobility.
Better forward speed.
That’s a quick cross analysis.
So yeah, call out my shilling for Challenger 2, but I know the information and assessment is correct.
Damn those brokenly OP T-54s.
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So you’ve played 3 (three) matches (or less, if you’ve used a backup) since 2025 and feel qualified to comment?
Already laid out. You just hit it with the “nuh uh” using claims on experience that you don’t have.
I’m sure you do bud.
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I dont have to, i main russia and i know that the challenger 2 is far inferior to the BMPT by a margin the size of an airstrip. If you cant recognize that then you must be fighting level 3’s in BMPT’s or cannot recognize objective truth.
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@Metaltank1990
I studied the BMPT for 3 - 5 hours.
Played 2 months of air while information about BMPT was arising.
Practiced a few times in matches against them off and on, then I acted on my knowledge:
11.7 Britain, and 11.7 China.
USA also has a hilariously strong 11.7 lineup, but mine is 12.0 currently and I’m not changing that.
And with that knowledge I gained 15 frags, and 3 deaths in TES alone.
Had a good MBT 2000 match as well.
Of course, it’s just two tech trees.
Study and action is what I do. And the action proves the effectiveness of the study.
Having this knowledge also meant I knew this was a victory before I even made it out of spawn:
Ariete, MBT-2000, and Challenger 2 were on the BMPT side.
The other side only had M1A1 and IPM1 as options. Leopard 2A4 would need DM33 in order to stand close to equivalence, and even then I’d push BMPT at least slightly above.
I’m sure you did. I’ve played against it for no less than 20x that.
So effective you got your kd barely above 1 lol
So you didn’t even fight against them? lmao??? you got carried and somehow still fumbled your wr to 36%??? How can you seriously be here trying to claim you know everything about fighting BMPT and in the end go “well actually they were on my team…”
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@Metaltank1990
I only got like 2 frags in the match on Breslau because it was just a huge imbalance and all I did was cover B as I typically do.
15/3 is not 1:1.
Having fought well over 20 BMPTs, it’s the same weakspots I’ve been using against T-72s; and yeah, I can only protect points for so long before I’m overrun.
How is it even possible to be a poser for fighting the BMPT? Its literally a universal experience even russia players (speaking from experience) have had to deal with BMPT’s and know how annoying they are, this is an actual display of “ignorance is bliss” in its purest form.
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He was paraphrasing you, i dont think you read it
Me: “I’ve fought against BMPTs.”
Show me where he paraphrased “I’ve fought against BMPTs.”
The ACTUAL quote is:
“How can you seriously be here trying to claim you know everything about fighting BMPT and in the end go “well actually they were on my team…””
I’m pointing out that you haven’t.
Either these are both lies or you lied earlier in saying you had played previously to 2-3 days ago, because you only have 17 kills total, which is 2+15.
Actually no, they are both lies. You can’t spawn the same tank 3 times in the same match.
So this is a blatant lie.
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This is you posting a screenshot of a lineup, of you not fighting russia or any BMPT’s.
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@memesiguess
One match is not the entirety of War Thunder.
You should read posts before responding.
@Metaltank1990
Prove that you can only ever play one match in War Thunder.
If you’re being honest, and not lying, then you should be able to prove people can play one match.
17 - 2 = 15 new frags.
No dude im using the sample you provided, which sucks, theres a replay function you can use to prove that you did fight BMPT’s and would be relevant, you are yet to provide any such evidence.
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All you’ve proven is you played a match on the same side as BMPTs and that went well.
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@memesiguess
I’ve already overlapped the replays. Auto deleted by War Thunder: The only one left in rotation is the Breslau, which is at the end of this post.
Your defense of BMPT is the most hilarious I’ve come across, because you haven’t supplied reason.
You’ve accused BMPT players of awful things, without evidence.
You’ve personally attacked a Britain shill for knowing how to easily handle BMPTs.
And you’ve defended a Russian vehicle.
Also it was one, not two; I misremembered: The singular tank that attacked B on Breslau.
So 1 + 2 out of 17 frags were not facing BMPTs
As for the score… Sometimes I don’t score well when defending points; That comes with the territory when defending points for the win, sometimes the enemy just goes all in on one singular point, and it’s not yours.
I’d rather be on the point in-case someone does attack then chase down frags to pad stats, especially when I’m trying to face BMPTs instead of play a boring match on Breslau.
And I’ve seen BMPTs at top BR ground waste their spawns over 30 times in the last month of on & off top ground with Japan, Germany, and at least one other.
so you have no backing? Curious.
Nobody is defending the BMPT. This is very much an attack on it and I dislike it.
Is incompetence really that awful?
you have 19 matches in the TES do not even start
Again very much an attack on it.
You have 8 matches since 31/12/25. You’ve accounted for… two, and both of them weren’t facing BMPTs.
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Rather convenient that the replays were auto deleted, but heres the thing. Warthunder doesn’t auto delete replays, it notifies you about storage, it doesn’t purge the replays. I have gone hundreds of matches and kept my replays for months. And there are server replays that you can access that are stored through entire updates and years, so you can most definitely search through your games and bring up the replay. So i implore you. Do it and give yourself an actual argument.
I havent attacked metaltank1990 who is am actual British shill.
Lol
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