The point is never “IF” you can use a vehicle,a vehicle can be bad and still do good if the one playing it its capable of using it
Its a matter of easy on average is to actually play a vehicle on a low skill level and Russian vehicles from experience do get lucky bounces or some random NO DAMAGE after pen since Russia is the main nation that actually benefits from volumetric banana code
If you would remove volumetric you will not suffer from actual “Russian bias”
Oh, SEVEN whole battles?
Well clearly that’s a large enough sample size to draw major conclusions from!
What’s that? Statshark has hundreds of thousands of battles on record? Oh no, those must be rigged and your 7 battles are clearly more representative of the reality of top-tier winrates than the experience of tens of thousands of other players.
/s
buddy, ive been playing since 2021, 4k hours on steam i have germany, russia, GB, and israel top tier i think ive seen a lot (and experienced with russian tanks)
And what does that supposed to mean? If you haven’t seen NATO tank eating dart than it doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist.
And appealing to the time of playing…
My 7k battles with good results against your bad results with 10k. What do you want to say?
That’s mostly a T-90M thing, and even then I only have it happen maybe in 15/100 shots. Besides, LFP shots still one-tap it consistently and breech/turret roof shots completely cripple the thing too.
The T-80BVM blows up reliably, as do any of the other high tier MBT’s like the T-80U-E1, T-72B3, T-90A, etc. etc.
As always, I suspect that aim is a bigger problem in this equation than the survivability of Russian MBT’s is.
Once again compiled data on every shot taken against a Russian vehicle.
Every single shot (save for ONE at 2:05) that could’ve/should’ve one-shot a Russian vehicle, did one-shot a Russian vehicle.
Confirmation bias.
You’re biased to believe it happens with Russian tanks, but not NATO tanks, so you’ll dismiss it when it does happen with NATO tanks.
Meanwhile, when you put aside your biases and keep track of all shots, you get frequent nonsense on NATO tanks too:
Is that why the M1A2 Trophy-HV and SEP v3 are MASSIVELY superior tanks to the T-90M Arena-M?
That’s the equivalent of:
Nice collage, most of this shooting to +82 angled armor plates isnt pretty predictable ?
How can u say this when The aps of it has like 7 charges just on one side?? wtf bro
As u say buddy, but im only trying to say that ive got a time playing on the game, its very rare to see an apfsds bounce or get eaten by the side of a nato MBT, if i made a collage of all the T series tanks that ate my shells i could make three of those like u sent.
The autoloader of the T series tanks can eat apfsds shells half the time without destroying it, but when u penetrate a nato tank instantly goes out of horizontal drive cuz of “Gaijins balance” anyway does that justify that all the 30mm bushmaster + spikes light tanks behave like shit (Talking about rate of fire of bushmaster lower than irl and AOA of the spike missile) meanwhile the LMUR does use an actual good AOA and the BMPs 30mm uses its real life rate of fire ? and what about the invisible blowout panel of the bmpt??? and what about the Kh missiles? they have only seen a convention… What about giving russia the buk such a nice SPAA and very well paired with the other SPAA from those updates? oh no… it seem like germany got the irist that was better so they had to give russia the pantsir SM-SV with fucking 96 missiles,. At that point, why dont u give Israel the iron dome? or give USA the patriot? bruhh
Its not just me, there is a lot of players that say that the T series tanks ates apfsds to the sides like nothing, mainly because of the era and the fuel tanks cuz i dont know why but russian fuel tanks are quite hard… its very weird, and the fact that u that u have being playing since 10 years ago and chose to defend an overpowered and biased nation that 50% of the playerbase plays its kinda bad for u, if the matchmaking is already f up that we have to play russia agains russia, what will happen if they keep buffing it and the playerbase decides to leave the nations they started with to play russia??? Russia thunder?? Russian civil war? cmon mate, think about it
All of that photo collage about NATO tanking shots but hear me the fuck out:
Constructive forum users here.
Your worst performing Top tier MBT sorted by K/D…T90M and Leo2PL
Literally no one in esports matches picks T80/t90s over Abrams.
Now i wont deny theres sketchy stuff happening on russian tanks (and also but maybe not as much on every other tank in the entire game) and weird additions to the ru tech tree that are magnitudes better than comparable counterparts in other nations. But if its the “sometimes eating darts at shots where they shouldnt” brings you to that conclusion, why do you completely dismiss that even IF thats the case on a much more regular basis than on other tanks (which isnt proven) they still do much worse than almost every other MBT?
Did you make a post about that? for once? No, not ever? That’s right.
Just say that you want things as is… instead going after people.
@Panther2995 These fucking attorneys ain’t doing possitive shit instead of denying people.
fr fr gang
Imma head out.
Why do you even take them seriously? Those people always loves to yap about NATO vehicles while deliberately ignoring Russian ones and claims they are trash.
Nah its just a video game man, ain’t nobody give a shit instead of bull shit manners.
There is no changes yet these blokes already puck their hair off lmao
You might need to visit an ophthalmologist.
It’s a compilation of the Abrams turret ring absorbing shots it has no bussiness absorbing, as well as it’s mantlet eating shots on a fairly regular basis.
T-90M Arena only has 2 charges facing front, instead of the Trophy’s 3 charges.
In fact, if you turn the Trophy-HV’s turret ever so slightly off-centre you’ve got 6 total charges that can be used to your direct front.
That’s 3x more charges than a Arena-M has towards it’s front.
Besides, are you seriously going to argue the T-90M Arena isn’t worse than a M1A2 SEP v3 or Trophy-HV simply because it’s got more overall charges? Which doesn’t even matter as most attacks will come from the same quadrant and the Arena-M doesn’t have more changes per direction than a Trophy-HV does?
So do it.
‘‘Half the time’’
There’s absolutely no way 50% of your shots fail to destroy the autoloader when struck directly. There are only two possibilities here:
1) Your aim is at fault.
2) You’re massively exaggerating the percentage.
So I’ve got 4400+ kills in various M1’s combined:
The majority of those matches have been against Russia over the years.
So, do you think I’m ‘‘Defending Russia’’, or maybe, just maybe I’ve been utterly stomping Russian MBT’s for years now in significantly superior NATO MBT’s, and what I’m saying comes from a place of experience as well as data that I’ve gathered (and presented you with).
We know how you got those numbers buddy, stop yapping about.
Exactly people like necrons and certain people always loves to yap about ‘‘certain things’’, dont mind them.
Uhhh im quite sure i did. But you seem to know better than me what i posted and what i didnt.
Going after people? He made a public statement in the official forum for the game and i replied to it. If you or he can’t handle that i dont really see how thats my problem. I wasnt offensive, i wasnt shaming him for anything, just posting the open to see for everyone stats from statshark that drag all the stats of thereplay system of the game itself. If you dont like those numbers, or numbers in general and rather argue from your pov, fine. Probably a bit prone to confirmation bias but u do you.
Still doesnt explain why basically not a single player in official tournaments is picking the oh so mighty t80s over abrams or leos.
Answer is easy, high skill level players prefers those tanks because they perform better.
On average Joe’s hand Russian tanks performs much better, comparing elite percent to overall is purposely misguiding.
While that might be true to the degree of im mindlessly rushing into the whole enemy team in a better suited for that role t80 because of better frontal armor is possibly more successful than doing the same in a leo or a leclerc, that still doesnt explain why the average joe’s stats on statshark put all russian mbts for june 26 at the lowest efficiency of any MBT at 12.7
You might be onto something there. Keep digging. ;-)
U gave me such a nice arguments, not kidding. And u are right in most of this, i could have exagerated some things. Sorry for saying those things before, hearing another point of view is always important
Same happened on previous Abrams models but i dont see you mentioning about that?
Maybe just maybe its because people switched to USA to grind those new shiny abrams and that leds us to those stats, have you ever thought about that?
Buddy you have no position to act arrogant when it comes to tanks against me.
And to clarify, there’s stuff I agree with you on.
The BMPT has a stupid and broken damage model, CAS is OP and should be curtailed significantly.
I aimed as low as possible, making sure to hit both the ammo and crew, yet it didn’t kill them.
(Yes, I collect these bits of evidence no matter the nation).
But I simply can’t agree that Russian MBT’s are the most difficult to kill or that it’s crew are most protected.
I also can’t agree that the T-90M Arena is anything more than mediocre (especially compared with the new M1’s), or that it’s APS offers better protection than that of the Trophy.
Not entirely sure what your point is?
