That is some weird obsession with pen. You should play losat, it got entire 764 mm pen. Or khrizantema with its massive 1200 mm pen.
Similar to my tank shell argument: As long as its ‘good enough’, the missile weighs more than the carrier jet. And R77 is really good. Far better than anemic Aim120, even better than Micas. Russia is on top here.
what?
This still makes no sense
R-77-1 is flat out better than the AIM-120 yeah, but this is nowhere near your tank shell argument
Your tank shell argument is pure copium
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When your tank shell has nice base stats, but still fails to penetrate main enemy armor arrays, its simply not as useful as vice verca. Most players just look @ statcards, without considering practical ingame facts. Less pen is better, when main enemies are literally paper…except the top of the line Leopard 2. Everything else is butter to 3bm60, currently. That fact makes 3bm60 the best or lets say most useful ingame shell.
what? No
more penetration is better, due to residual penetration.
You’re making 0 sense
Got it, thanks
Free Pantsir is all anyone needs to say about Russian bias.
The joke that the Pantsir is at the same BR as an ADATS also highlights this.
Pure stupidity from Gaijin.
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lol
before being an idiot, I suggest learning how the mechanics work
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You are talking about Thodin here, same dude who has claimed that the M4A3E2(76)W should be a higher BR than the Tiger II(H).
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When you don’t pen frontal era arrays, you do exactly no damage. I’d rather use a shell type which never encounters this over everything else.
Is anyone taking Thodin takes seriously ?
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12.0 != 11.7
Behave do you think there is a 0.3 difference in BR between the ADATS and the Pantsir S1…
Pantsir should be higher with 2S6 being closer in performance to the ADATS than the Pantsir S1 is.
I’m sorry
These are the people arguing that Russian bias exists…
Someone lacking basic geography, someone thinking a jumbo is better than a tiger 2 and even more…
Come on man
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USA bias in 2026
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‘Behave’
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They are both good, just at different things ADATS is by far the best heli killer from 11.7 to 12.3, especially when it doesn’t trigger lws due to gaijin spaghetti code.
And no, ADATS is superior in every way compared to the 2S6 that matters for an aa, missile, multi guidance, guidance method, irst, missile overload…
2S6 is only better with it’s chassis
Yes but the gap in performance between the 2S6 and the ADATS is closer then the ADATS and the Pantsir.
Free Pantsir was a massive huge boost to Russia at top tier and the Pantsir SV took it to another ridiculous level.
As for Helis ADATS should not be able to reach a well flown Ah-64E or an Mi-28N
ADATS does not have multi guidance.
They both have IRST with the same tracking range, 2S6 has better tracking zone.
They both guide in the same way in game, missile to line of sight.