whatever advantage the B3 has going forward is instantly cancelled out by the non existant reverse.
20-30mm pen is hardly a difference maker.
5.3 second reload for the first 4 rounds >>>>> 7 seconds flat.
lmao what? The T-72B3 pops in a single shot 80-90% of the time against any self respecting player. Chally is easily more survivable.
Yeah no shit.
“your right but i dont agree so im gonna make excuses”
5s for 4 rounds vs 7 seconds for the whole game
the relikt destabs any round at an angle and the t72 cant be easily front penned by a 30mm however a challenger can also there survivability when penned is just as terrible but the t72 is more difficult to pen
thats not very nice, i dont think the T72 is infinitely better but it should have never moved down
Lmao
Yep, and the 5s for 4 rounds is incredible for a CQB situation.
The B3s are just dead in the water in a close range situation.
Ok, give me 10 situations where 3BM60 can pen something but L27A1 can’t.
Maybe for autocannons yeah, but it’s laughably easy to pen for main cannons.
and the slow hull turning and gun handling is not
the good gun handling and lack of a nato hump says otherwise
more about post pen than actual pen but now let me guess your gonna say it doesnt matter?
the challenger is still way easier to pen
again not saying its infinitely better but which one is better is debatable and the T72B3 shouldnt be facing 10.3 tanks
Too bad NATO mains doesn’t have this type of players.
I’m glad we can agree that it should be 11.0
Every heard about repleneshing first stage? also chally 2 on no first stage is also 7s (ace)
It’s supposed to
Both with 3UBR11 500m
Survivability is way better btw
good luck in an encounter with more than two enemies without running away and losing position. challengers ammo layout is nearly the same as a chieftain (most of the tank is) so it quite easily could be bumped to 15 shells to bring it a little closer to par with the rest.
unfortunately pretty much every dart produced by countries with modern technology have an anti-ERA tip to their darts making things like relikt valueless.
bro really used the only spot on the bottom of a chally with some armour for that.
it will hold up against the 30mm darts (that BMP-2 should be incapable of firing to be accurate) but realistically youve taken the barrel and tracks off the victim in your BMPT instantly
i love that excuse so much, if the first stage is mentioned people say “just replenish it” because of course only we get the luxurys of having to wait for a round to replenish while everything else gets a ready rack of atleast 10+ rounds
your russian cardboard isnt doing that irl.
the fuck does this prove? using the heaviest most armoured challenger and at a weird angle for both
both front on in there lightest config against 30mm
@Rzi4628-live Any possibility Challenger 2 11.3? At least that’s what I think. It should be in 11.3BR
You can’t just say X pens Y and thus its the best shell.
In fact 3bm60 is by far the best tank shell, when you evaluate potential target tanks. While BlueFor shells indeed have better penetration values, they still fail to penetrate UFP/turrets of eastern tanks. You need to aim for specific weakpoints, despite high penetration values.
3bm60, even with less pen, is still able to pen the frontal chassis of almost all western tanks. So its superior, despite lower pen values.
i mean after this update the challengers will have no advantages against even 11.0 tanks but i still doubt it
Actually its often literally just a house brick…
The players that use it not being a major nation player is the advantage.
(im replacing all of my challengers bar the OES with the ADF abrams.
heres a photo from a certain thing going on right now that shows this russian “relikt era” which is just egg cartons that can be found in my cupboard
Or Challenger 11.7 T72B3 11.7 and M1A2 12.3 T80BVM Leo A7 M1A2 SEP… 13.0
In conclusion, the current BR system does have some unfair aspects. However, the T72B3 is not as biased towards Russia as the BMPT, Pantsir SM, or MI28NM
So just as with 3BM60.
Not aiming for weakspots will be unreliable at best.
But we have to keep the myth up that RU tanks don’t have to aim.
I take the Merkava nuke shell or DM53 if i could chose.
nyet, that is special russian NERA composite with 43074532mm of KE protection
You people are so naive it’s scary. Are eggs in Russia diamond shaped?
