True that
I dont think we quite appreciate just how insane lmur being top attack is, has gaijin ever gave excuses for that nonsense?
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Detection ranges for modern aircraft are extremely classified. Anyone giving out numbers and making statements on effectiveness is to be disregarded.
Iranian had some decently competent sam systems. Not new, not that old.
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I know, im just saying that maybe the Iran kerfuffle might not be the best to accurately judge the interaction between the most modern radars we have in the game and stealth aircraft.
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main issue is LDIRCM, the LMUR is secondary
Yes and no.
Iran did not have the latest and best systems available - however they had the best part of 30-40 years to get their air defence net planned and ordered (including learning lessons from when Iraq’s was malleted in GW1 and GW2). They have also had significant tech exchanges with Russia in updating their S-300 and local variants; including investing in IR/EO systems. They are many things, but they are not stupid. See also what happens when they get to employ 30-40 years of prep in closing a certain waterway…
With all of that said - it didn’t take long for a fairly small force of F-35s (relative to the non-stealth stuff) to plot, map and blind most of the air defences across large swathes of the country. Losing a single F-15E and A-10 out of a total of 1000s of sorties is quite telling.
However you are correct - whatever circus we end up with War Thunder (for a circus it will be) will bear about as much similarity to real life as an episode of Whacky Races has to Formula 1…
I dunno - give them Spikes (or air-launched equivalents) and you’d drastically reduce their ability to decimate the opposing team…
they’re still incredibly hard to get rid of, and annoying to deal with.
Depends on the amount. AH-64E and Z-10ME are still doing very well statistically with 16x JAGM-MR and 8x Blue arrow respectively.
For Naval, three words - Soyez, SKR-7, Pr 206
Most ridiculously broken OP trash.
yeah sure
hard to say how much of that is due to LMUR being a better missile and russia having absurd AA though
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Not gonna lie mate, I’m getting extremely bored of losing most top tier games to BMPT spammers who then bounce into a damn MI28NM and just nukehalf the team, then most the time actually get a nuke lol.
Also dude shot my MG with heat and it completely overpressured my tank? makes no sense, at all.
Reckon the absurd SPAA is making it more profound, though the lmurs still gto the advantage.
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Well considering that all of those helis did better pre march id say its the SM SV
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yeah they did better, but they were still normally slightly behind
Oh yeah they were behind most of the time even though russia players will absolutely swear that the MI28NM is totally not the best heli.
But the new Pantsir really didnt help the situation.
Sure on a gamewide scale yes, but it isnt a russia issue, lmur though is one of the most blatant examples of favoritism weve had in a long time