Then remove Kh38s and the new pantsirs missiles.
Remove the Lmurs lofting capabilities and make them on par with that of the JAgs as well as the dazzler.
Or is it just a problem when other nations gear should be buffed to keep up.
Personally we went too modern to fast, that’s it, now though we have the issue of making sure nations aren’t left in the dust or left completely obsolete.
Have you played 11.7 italy? used the AMX premium as CAS? it’s pretty impossible bar in a full downtier to use it.
Pantsir S1 then of course newer more modern SPAAs at higher BR’s make it near impossible to even approach a battlefield.
Pantsir S1 , is manageable but not if there’s a BUK or an SVSM firing at you too.
for the standard phoon 6x FnF brimstones.
It’s totally bullcrap that the likes of the Rafale can get its hammers un touched more or less meanwhile brimstones got absolutely butchered.
That’s the point, it’s never gonna happen so why should other nations be left half neutered while others get their best kit almost (or even better than their best)
I play pretty much 12.7 and down, I’ve predominantly been at 11.7 - 12.7 as of late and let me tell you, there are an absolute plethora of planes which have been rendered nearly useless with not only the new CAS they have to compete with, the Strong as hell SPAA to deal with said CAS, but also the new pantsir.
Using planes which are either subsonic and armed with GBUs and such within the BR range of a pantsir makes it almost impossible to use CAS at all.
I’m all for making it so CAS doesn’t rinse entire lobbies in mere moments, but we haven’t really addressed that issue at all still.
it’s just whomever has the strongest SPAA ont heir side, for a while was having an IRIS T meant u pretty much had full air control, now the pantsir has taken the mantle
Why they need to make fantasy IR brims or model radar guidance for brims when they can just ctrl-cctrl-v and give it 8 spice-250? And 8 spice will be probably even better than 6 brims.
I don’t see any problem with current aesa ef2000 as cas plane. Great competitive multirole.
Well, I generally agree that now most of the 10.0+ cas is highly overrated by ground-only players in terms of effectiveness and often plays against completely unequal opponents and pretty much useless. But all this new spaa/planes/etc just can’t be balanced with current maps and game modes and the developers “fix” this by continuing to add even more powercreep in response, which only makes the pendulum of balance swing more violently.
That’s why I think this is the way to nowhere. Developers need to develop current game modes and redo some maps with top tier vehicles in mind, rather than making another half-baked game mode with infantry.
It was a great competetive multirole until Gaijin added the slow-AGM-destroyer-9000 to the game.
Trying to fire off Spices while going subsonic against the rod of god just for all your ammo to be intercepted anyway is not really rewarding gameplay.
Nothing has changed much for him. It is still climbing right over the enemy spawn and in this scenario new pantsir are the same low-level threat as the old one.
yeah duh of course that strat still works since its completely reliant on the enemy SPAA not noticing aka it literally doesnt matter what SPAA you face.
For every other situation the SM SV additions matters very much.
ARH SAM with 2s scan time have a solid chance to counter this but they are rare guests in my games. 13.0 games are filled mostly with 12.3 prem players (especially USA) without any tt 12.0+ spaa except free ones. Sky sabre is a best counter but I play UK so it’s always on my side.
They noticed me and tried to shoot me down. It’s just that it’s almost impossible until you make a mistake with climb.
I was also very skeptical about the effectiveness of this tactic (I started actively using it only about 2 weeks ago as I finally opened spice on ef2000), but it worked surprisingly often and consistently. I didn’t expect this myself. Probably nerf soon with clouds in every game.
So far, I don’t feel any special problems from the new pantsir when i use aesa ef2000. I want to hang myself in a helicopter, but I’m still quite comfortable playing with typhoon.
Right peeps - I’ve got a BMPT now and I’ve got a confession to make. It’s even worse than I thought.
In fact it is so bad that anybody who ever says that Gaijin isn’t blatantly favouring the RU tech tree with BS vehicle modelling, BS vehicle performance and BS vehicle options is a complete and total muppet.
I present one of my first matches. This is a nearly STOCK BMPT - that I sat parked in B - in the middle of Sinai. Got five kills for such a big-brain tactic…
Yes peeps - I just tanked a helicopter’s volley of four ATGMs. That Tigre just dumped all his PARS into a stationary target and literally ran out of missiles.
I then managed to shoot up a few more people’s barrels/tracks and generally make a lot of the opfor very miserable before eventually being flanked and taken out.
I’m not even playing it properly - I’m just driving into the enemy team grinding out the APDS belt…
@Crazed_Otter
Not evidence of Russian bias when those tactics are known to result in high frag counts across hundreds of vehicles.
Ambushing other tanks makes any vehicle better by virtue of being in a hidden position.
Ten-thousands of player have done that in Matilda before & others, it’s not unique to the Soviets.
the spice are 1 slower to target, as well as 2 it never carried them.
why just give it random munitions it didn’t use and not give it at least the partially functioning BRIMS for the standard EF2000. The new pantsir completely erradicates spices before they get anywhere near anything.
lol not really that great from what I’ve seen of them in matches, hell I out do them most times in a 12.3 Netz with 6 mavs and 2 Jdams.
what’s the issue with most the maps?
vast majority of them are alright, got angles in which you can sweep up and avoid most SPAA, providing you aren’t in a sub sonic attacker which is over BR’d-
Well they won’t remove anything or change what needs to be changed, as well as slamming OP meta shattering stuff into the game without moving anything up to compensate. I mean jesus you can come across stuff like the pantsir SV SM or whatever it is if you take even a JH7A out or an AMX A1A 1 which is ridiculous.
what would you change in currect game modes? what exactly are we missing?
Also what maps?
You are mentioning maps for top tier but not actually stating what you would change or needs changed.
Rod of God xDDD, Not gonna lie mate I’ve seen a good handfull of phoons trying to get their Spices off effectively and not managed to get anything near the battlefield cause of that new pantsir.
Myself even in the Netz have only managed to get above them a select few times and even then a couple times a pantsir has wracked me down.
And you make yourself an easy target for potential enemy planes.
Like don’t get me wrong the strat certainly works but if you compare it to a CAS run with the KH38MT or the Hammers it’s just much more of a hassle.
Sure if you exclusively do James strat the difference is small but the new Pantsir makes any other type of CAS run with slow AGMs borderline impossible.
Even with James strat mate they can still sometimes catch you out, purely due to how fast that damn missile is.
I’ve done it most recently with the Netz, and the only SPAA which has actually stopped me without fail multiple times is the new pantsir, IRIS T has caught me a couple times when I’ve made mistakes.
But the pantsir, can fire a missile which is somehow fast enough *and can pull enough Gs to catch you.
Which to me, seems to defy physics a bit there.
Whats even funnier about this whole situation, you know for a fact that I didn’t subscribe to “russian bias” but the longer and longer they leave the game in this crap state, the more blatant it is becoming man.
T80 reload buffs making T80U and all 11.7 variants far more deadly.
addition of the Lmurs correct lofting. Whilst no one gets the same. (I believe no one should have this but hey ho)
Addition of over performing LDRICM or whatever Dazzler is called.
BMPT being added at 10.7 and only rectification has been slight Br increases.
KH38MT still left in game.
finally, the Topic of the last comment, the Pantsir.
I cannot believe all of this has been happening in the past few months and nothing I mean nothing has been changed to address it.
EDIT : I also completely forgot the pain in the butt which is the SU30 premium at 13.3 and is catagorically under BRd.
