You know any user can check sim lineups without paying it.
Mind-blowing, I know
Ok and what is your opinion that blue lineups are better based on?
90% victories come from points. Tanks cap points>which team tanks played better and captured points gonna win. For CAS to affect battle it needs to kill miraculous number of players and pretty early that rarely happens because they are less popular.
Games are not won or lost exclusively through the actions of MBTs. Its every part of the line-up.
Yes, MBTs do the grunt work, but AFV/IFVs scout and flank, SPAAs protect from CAS and CAS can punish a team heavily and push them right back.
Whilst the soviets might not have the strongest MBTs (though I would still call them perfectly competitive and within the top 3 or 4 MBT families at the moment) the rest of the line-up is meta. BMPT, Pantsirs, Buk, Mi-28, Su-30, etc etc.
The soviets have some of the best CAS AND some of the best SPAA. This not only allows them to hit the other team hard with strong CAS, but also deny other nations from being able to do the same in return. This heavily mitigates the advantages other nations have at the moment with their MBTs, because they are getting killed by CAS. That significantly increases winrates.
You also cant forget that the BMPT is probably also doing most of the capping at the moment
Ok i can see how someone who doesnt play with LDIRCM helis and FnF CAS regularly could have that opinion.
But you are plain wrong. It happens all the time, because ussr CAS is insanely popular and LDIRCM Helis are very cheap for their potential. The kills are only part of the problem, because CAS can drain SP without counterplay for MBTs.
Is it really need explaining that mars 15 with apfsds and lrf is op against t-54
Or hstv-l(12.0) and AGS(12.0) are op against 10.0-11.0 ru MBTs?
Yeah its almost like they are not at the same BR because of that.
War thunder player discovers full uptiers suck only after reaching 11.0.
We talk about SIM. SIM DOES NOT HAVE UPTIER OR DOWNTIERS
It does though, you choose the bracket, if you got in a 10.0 to 11.0 bracket with only 10.0 its going to suck its just how it goes, sim isn’t great on that front
that might be one of the weakest arguments I have ever seen.
Especially in the GSB argument, Bluefor CAS is basically unusable at the moment, as first spawn Pantsir SM-SVs and Buks basically prevent any Bluefor CAS for really doing much at all. Every single time ive tried to play top tier GSB recently, Redfor dominated very very quickly. Mi-28s destroyed any SPAA that was up and KH-38MT volleys rained down on everyone else. Trying to play the Sky Sabre to counter the Mi-28s and Su-30SM2s was futile, trying to play the Typhoon was futile and trying to play MBTs and other ground vehicles was, you guessed it, futile.
Redfor currently holds an overwhelming advantage in GSB at the moment, and that isnt changing anytime soon.
What br? Dude are you lost? You quoted about sim battles. I answer you in sim battles
They are not uptiers if you choose vehicles, you can always play top in sim
And like… you even don’t have a single sim battle. Stop your white noise
Most sim brackets are nato fantasy. I’m surprised that not many usa mains play sim… I guess not having markers is too much for them
I have played a bit of air sim. Ground sim is the exact same insofar as how br brackets work.
Are you? Youre still comparing vehicles that are not supposed to be on the same level as evidenced by the BR that Gaijin gave them. Thats like me saying that russia is better, because a Leopard 2A4 is worse than a T80U
I literally wrote some time ago - 11_2 is a balance mess, but there is no excuse in 8_2_2, 8_2, 9_2, 10_2 for NATO to suck beside their personal skill issue.
Meanwhile in sim 90s vehicles with lrf and heat face t54s, not even t55. I wonder if the blatant p2w vidar is still allowed (2000s vehicle)
Helicopter stats are something I did not think to check. It’s even worse than I initially believed.
It’s very unfortunate, to say the very least. I keep hoping that one day toptier (and toptier adjacent) balance will improve, and yet, update after update the devs never fail to disappoint when it comes to this particular BR bracket.
First it was the Kh-38s. It was somewhat unfair back then, but not unbearable. The LMURs and Terminators, however, really ruined it for me personally. As a cherry on top, and perhaps to further mock me, they added a better Pantsir. I really wonder what their end goal is. Nevertheless, I continue to have blind faith that it’s going to get better someday.
I believe my wants in regards to the game to be rather tame — I want to be able to play western tanks without feeling punished for not playing RU instead.



