People can still very much point out the questionable skill and decisions you use to come to the conclusion of this supposed Russian bias.
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I mean most of them are not skilled but holy this game was the perfect example of pressing W and destroying the enemy.
Together with BMPT’s and 2S38’s Russian Teams becomes menace.
Whats next was even more cancer, i jumped into my SU30 and slinged bunch of KH38’s while others did the same thing.
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You are that sure because you are looking for proof to confirm your already established belief, not because you are actually looking for what is going on.
If you believe there are more blue cars than red cars driving around in my area, of course you will subconsciously notice or look for the blue cars more than the red cars (just a random example).
EDIT: This was the game I mentioned in the other thread from Friday:
It was a win, but because I was in a 4 stack that isn’t the important part. This was me playing 13.0 France (well I only got to use the Leo 2A6NL and Leclerc SXXI, but you get the point), it was against Russia and I played like an absolute idiot (if you don’t believe me, watch the replay).
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1 game only where you did good is proof of what?
i just had 3 games back to back to the bs copter and the bs terminator
one does fire and forget to anything on field and when he gets shot he just lands and reloads, the other just hides the hull and thats it.
just because i did good yesterday doesnt mean anything.
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There is no point in discussing bias, one side will use wrong or false examples and other will ignore actual examples and focus on those that are easily debunked. I won’t say which side is which.
Yep, and the losing streak that SadRIPer posted also means very little, because his overall winrate for the the Leclerc is still 47% and his winrate in the Leclerc over the last 3 days is still 45.5%, which are both a far fetch from Russia having a 70-80% winrate like he claimed.
I’ll try to get some more games in (if the matchmaker decides it wants to do something), doubt it will be any different from the game I had on Friday though.
That is the funny thing, since those “actual examples” are very much subjective so what you describe here applies to both sides at the same time.
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I would say subjective examples aren’t very good ones, yes.
And that is exactly the problem with the whole Russian bias discussion. There are very little objective examples for either side, because who gets to decide which examples are objective or subjective?
The examples that are closest to being objective are the BMPT release, Kh38MT and Mi-28NM. Everything else is mostly subjective, especially the ones involving Russian MBTs.
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i donk know what examples you are using
when a company has done stuff like more hp on russian gun barrels, wood log with the same properties as rha or the extra plate mantlet on is6, do you rly expect me to believe they wont try different aproaches to make the russians have an edge?
how long as era been broken? it benefits everyone, but what nation plasters it all over the tank?
its the same with regenerative driving, but russian tanks dont need it so… tough luck
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I’d ask you to keep your made up words with yourself as well
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Playing Russia at top tier is playing the game in TUTORIAL MODE
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I have a 45% winrate with the Leclerc, and not 20-25%, because winning along with Russia counts in the winrate %.
If they counted only the winrate without Russia being in my team, I would be at 20-25% (exactly the winrate I had during the last 60 games against Russia). It’s just stats…
https://wt.controlnet.space/ that is exactly why, for example here, we can see Russia has a tremendous 80-90% winrate in simulation GB. It’s because they never team up with NATO and always fight NATO instead. Because it is always Russia + China vs NATO, NATO always loose in every match (80-90% of the time), and Russia always wins. That’s why we see that NATO winrates are so, soo low.
That is exactly what would happen to me if I were to fight against Russia in every 13.0 GRB game. I wouldn’t have 45% winrate, I would have 10-25% at best.
It’s so, soo obvious…
It’s actually disgusting.
And your source for that is?
If it’s just stats you surely could give a source instead of pulling numbers from your ass.
Russia has a 80-90% winrate in top tier sim because they can spawn their overpowered CAS straight away at the start of the game, which is pretty much the main win condition for Russia at top tier in general.
Their ground lineup is just decent-good, but at top tier NATO is generally much better off on the ground in terms of MBTs, LTs and SPAA (except maybe Britain and Italy). The only exception in the BMPT.
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And your source for that is?
My source is the way simulation GB mode works, and I linked below the source of the winrate I posted. In top tier sim, it’s always Russia + China VS NATO, and Russia has 80% winrate. It means if GRB mode worked like that, I would have 20% winrate, as France. But it doesnt, so I have 45% instead, because sometimes I team up with Russia. It’s logical
Russia has a 80-90% winrate in top tier sim because they can spawn their overpowered CAS straight away at the start of the game, which is pretty much the main win condition for Russia at top tier in general.
NATO can also spawn airs at the beginning of the match and take care of their CAS, so it is not really a valid argument.
By the time the NATO fighters are in a position to engage the enemy CAS jets they already have multiple Kh38s out, so you need AAs for that (which suprise suprise, almost no one wants to spawn first time).
For Helis it’s even worse, since it takes ages for NATO fighter to even reach said helis and a lot of AAs can’t actually touch the LDIRCM helis.
SO yeah, from actual experience playing top tier sim it’s almost definitely Russian CAS winning them games.
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NATO CAS and Russia CAS are more or less equivalent, they all have FnF, jet CAS, GBUs, AGMs, …
90% winrate for Russia is not just a matter of “LMURs are better than AH-64E FnF missiles, so Russia wins every match”. It’s another reason.
NATO CAS and Russia CAS clash and destroy as many tanks as possible from one side to the other, but Russia resists more, destroys more, … and it’s not just because of their CAS…
It’s because it is methodically biased by the game
Once you actually play some top tier sim I’ll take something you say about it seriously.
It’s been the same for years. NATO MBTs beat Russian equivalents, Russian CAS just stomps the NATO MBTs.
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So instead of proving me wrong, you just shift the whole argument…
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