0.2-0.22 K/D is still a significant amount when talking about global average K/D.
Over WZ1001/ZTZ99? It is significantly better. There’s a good argument for Abrams being the best MBT in the game and WZ/ZTZ are among the bottom ones.
I kind of forgot they actually gave the Z-10ME it’s good missile. My memory usually default to Z-10ME when it only had it’s garbage HE ATGM.
In that case the ZTZ99A/WZ1001/VT-4A1 must be truely bad vehicles, if the chinese players are supposedly better than average can only get those stats in it.
Or we can just give the Abrams the credit it deserves and admit that it’s among the best MBTs in game, only really behind the 2A7s/122s.
(I do agree though that Chinese players are better than US players on average)
Happens all the time to me too. Either he has a couple of alts reporting or he has a fanclub that can’t handle him being called out.
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They dont, especially WZ10001.
While it has same reload that T-90M has its mobility saves it skin a lot.
Due to having same reverse capabilities that NATO tanks has it can get out sticky situations pretty fast.
Abrams was always good no matter what people claimed, its just that some people hyping too much while completely neglecting its actual problems so naturally people who are not use to overcome these weaknesses complains.
Both side are actually right on certain aspect so saying “muh its trash” or “muh its perfect and doesnt need anything” are both false claims (I know you express Abrams problems usually, I’m talking about certain people).
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ODL from time to time is fine, we all have a frustrating day and a team half dead in the first 2 minutes where we already know where the game is going
I’m the kind of fool that first spawns AA and therefore has a lot of time to just observe the match when no air target is around. I can make 3 observations :
- 3-4 people ODL in early stages in the match will usually lead to a loss on the rest of the match, especially if the enemy team does not die / respawns. If the person ODLing had some skills it’s even worse, because that one player had more leverage on the match result compared to the avg joe. Take BMD4 nuke rushers for example : you have one skilled guy gone in 1 minute if his rush fails instead of him respawning and helping the team.
- people respawning but never taking into account someone having been pinged 10 times on the map, therefore giving him a free nuke
- while i play early AA, 2 thing can happen :
- either the enemy team spawns scout drones or early helis. In this case my first spawn is not in vain : i make them lose a lot of SP and deny their ability to scout from the sky
- if they don’t spawn any air, then my absence on the battlefield can still be felt, even if i’m only one person
All that to say that yes, consistantly ODLing will have an impact on your WR, partially because 1/16 of your team gone in the first few minutes has already an impact, but also because you are not the only one doing it.
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Another Russia Thunder moment where a russian side armor + autoloader eat a whole DART and the spalls with it as if it was nothing, leaving behind only a red + yellow ammunition (cool).
And no, it’s not a HEAT shell.
Never ever happens with NATO MBTs (they would be crippled to death if not dead in 1 shot already).
“Russian bias doesn’t exist”
I would’ve been fine if this was the only case with Russia.
This particular feature itself doesn’t cause the main issue but combining this with BMPT,SM-Sv,LMURS performance/quantity and fictional KH-38MT’s are the main reason why Russia is such dominant at top tier.
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The DARTs not pening russian MBTs because of volumetric / their biased ERAs eating them entirely / side armors disintegrating them into Oblivion / autoloaders acting like Bedrock walls not letting in any spall from them / trunions deleting them / fuel tanks making them disappear is the worst to me.
You can literally dominate a russian dude shooting him perfectly out of nowhere, if the bias starts talking, he can kill you while he should have been dead long ago lol
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Gonna play devil’s advocate in here, these happens on almost any tank sadly.
This is the main issue with ERA, no matter which angle you shoot at them they always performs optimal while in real life ERA performance depends heavily on incoming projectile angle combining with its own one.
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Keep in mind when it dropped it shot to statistically the best mbt in game for a month solid and only slowly fell off when BMPT and such was released.
Also keep in mind that recently in my experience, key words there, ive seen china VS russia a lot in RB.
They aren’t bad persay the Vt4A1 i believe i do better than my Bvm with it.
But they certainly are not good mbts man. Too many holes in the armour.
The Vt4a1 doesn’t have that reverse.
The round is worse
The reload is the same bar the Vt4s which have 6.7 seconds.
The armour is significantly worse as well.
I much prefer my chinese mbts.over russian ones but i wouldn’t say they’re better.
No tank in the game is perfect at all, the abrams has its issues the same as any, but too many completely ignore the great positives it has just to say it’s terrible.
It’s turret ring is an issue sure as auto cannons shouldn’t really get through it.
It does, you’re not playing devils advocate the guy you’re responding to is just constantly acting as if volumetric Bs only happens to russia.
You ever see legwolf reports on how it works for CR2 and gaijin just basically said no?
Like dude spent months gathering up loads of sources and had proven the point exceptionally well…tben left when they rejected it.
Werher hes still around i dunno but haven’t seen him.for a long time.
Basically the CR2 era is massively under performing. Much like all of its kit.
Same as most nato era.
Though i will say, on the ariete PSO the stuff has stopped a good few darts saving me
WZ1001 has 75km forward 32-35km reverse thus makes it much better than Russian tanks in mobility.
It also has same penetration capabilities that 3BM60 has.
Armor is quite solid and works pretty fine, especially ever since they made LFP smaller.
It also has IRST and Proxy shells which makes it quite effective against helicopters/ low flying aircraft’s.
I dont know what you’re thinking but WZ1001 rolls Russian tanks quite easily.
Last but not least current top tier Chinese shell should also penetrate significantly more armor while all high tier Chinese MBT’s should have access to spall liners.
Naturally, forward wise it’s not much different to the BVM, + past 72 you lose the stab.
It doesn’t man, most top tier rounds can still slice through it easily.
True that, forgot about the proxy shells
The reload, armour issues, as well as the fact it’s profile is really tall and you can lol pen a lot of hte turret with the 3BM60 means the BVM will still come out on top most times, plus the reload difference.
0.6 seconds.
should but doesn’t in game which I would like to see them get both .
bear in mind I still prefer my chinese MBTs , they’re just so much more fun than russian ones.
It does, you’re not playing devils advocate the guy you’re responding to is just constantly acting as if volumetric Bs only happens to russia.
The shot in the video had NOTHING to do with volumetric. It didn’t even hit a track, nor a volumetric part of the armor in that mater. It hit center of the side armor lol. Dishonest man.
It’s either the side armor or that modeled ERA that ate the whole DART like a russian fantaisy, and the autoloader managed to eat all the spalls afterwards, leaving behind only a red and yellow ammunition.
Ridiculous.
russian canon breach protection is hilarious now 400mm pen not enought to damage itt yeah so realistic… 2 perfect shot on breach no damage afther this one shoted me…
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I’d argue the Abrams has very exploitable weaknesses if opposing players know about them. Since most shots are already center mass, the turret ring and breech are the most likely places to be hit outside the LFP. Due to how much surface area you get to work with in those weakspots, it’s very exploitable. Granted if you know what you’re doing you can manage those weaknesses but if those weaknesses get exploited you get crippled as a result. It’s a great platform to use, but to your generic average player it’s a terrible vehicle.
He was actually explaining to me that the Leopard was supposedly one of the best-armored tanks. Is it more heavily armored than the Leclerc? Maybe than the Abrams? Or perhaps than the T-80 and T-90, which, when hiding their lower glacis plate, are nearly impossible to kill? And by the way, regarding turret armor — he clearly hasn’t fired at a Russian tank that refuses to even have its barrel damaged!
German tanks like the Panther I and all Tigers are better than the Russian ones all the way to top tier! Especially during World War II, where German tanks achieved great success despite the Russians’ numerical superiority. In the game, however, the reality is that a Panther cant survive a hit from a rock to the turret and then become completely useless afterward.
And what about the Russian SPAA Pantsir-S1? It gets more tank kills than the PUMA VJTF! As for the guy IhateCAS — let’s call him STATSMAN — I checked his stats and they’re nothing special. He’s probably one of those “rats” who spend the whole match waiting for their one flashy kill.
I neutralize enemy capture points sometimes five times in a single match, which is a thankless job because it gives neither money nor experience. Stats don’t win games, and that’s something those rats will never understand! I die and go right back to the position again and again, distracting the enemy and forcing them to react — even if I only make two tanks stop and look around for me, I’ve already contributed to my team.
My friends prefer playing in the 5.3 to 6.7 BR range, so I mostly play top-tier vehicles alone. But then IHateCAS shows up and starts talking about statistics, as if he alone is always the one making the difference in matches.
My friend, whether you have a 47% or a 51% win rate or K/D ratio means absolutely nothing, because a lot of it comes down to luck and chance. Every match, you play with different people. Your statistics would only truly matter if you played with the same team or clan every single time.
And, as some people already told you, the Russian tech tree is undeservedly dominant.
My friends prefer playing in the 5.3 to 6.7 BR range, so I mostly play top-tier vehicles alone. But then IHateCAS shows up and starts talking about statistics, as if he alone is always the one making the difference in matches.
My friend, whether you have a 47% or a 51% win rate or K/D ratio means absolutely nothing, because a lot of it comes down to luck and chance. Every match, you play with different people. Your statistics would only truly matter if you played with the same team or clan every single time.
The T-90M can be really annoying to kill when hiding it’s LFP. However most T-80s are still no problem in that situation, the BVM is especially weak in terms of turret compared to the other T-series.
Hold up, is this a wehraboo? Like from the old days of WT?
Damn I haven’t seen one of you in ages.
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only garbage cause they didnt make it top attack like the lmur btw, relevant to the discussion about bias imo
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Most top tier rounds can slice anything if you know where to aim. This not an excuse.
Reverse speed makes it shine so much, bein able to retreat easily makes the difference between life and death.
Reload can be neglible with amazing reverse speed.
Armor is better than BVM in my book, especially on turret considering half of the BVM’s turret is basically weakspot due to lacking base armor/ERA on critical parts.
You confused WZ with BVM, its the opposite in reality.
Not even close, I can easily lolpen BVM’s most of the turret due the reasons I listed above while he struggles to perform same action.
They are fun because they are better in both game and in real life. Not to mention WZ’s reload should also be 6.6 seconds but gaijin refuses to fix.
In my book its already better than BVM/90M, now imagine fixing shell penetration, adding spall liners and reducing reload rate.
Its basically Russian tank but better in almost every way.
much like most of western addon armor.
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