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ok sorry dude but F4J mogs MiG-23MLD, or literally the entire USSR team.
I played both sides, F4J was literally easy mode when it comes to CAP, the HMS + Aim7f combo was deadly
Mig-23 faired better only in dogfight
edit : talking about the nuclear thunder gamemode here
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F4J was easy mode in nuclear thunder due its allowed vehicles.
Us had F4E’s F-18’s, F-15’s, F-20’s and Tomcats on their side while Russia stuck with MLD’s, MiG-29’s with trash FM, of course USA was going to dominate from the get go.
I also played nuclear thunder event and MLD was still clapping any phantoms cheeks rather easily.
If Gaijin allowed to Russia side to use Su-27/33 your whole experience would’ve been quite different.
Anyway since nuclear thunder event doesnt represent the air rb it doesnt mean anything at all.
i thought we were talking about nuclear thunder not ARB
the MLD was straight up better than F4E, but F4J was the ultimate plane due to its PDV mode allowing it to lock anything in front aspect, mig23 with shitty mti and acm struggled to lock to use r24r, and f4e with even worse radar couldnt even use its aim7e2
No.
We were talking about ARB performance in general.
I wouldn’t call F4J ultimate plane on nuclear event when you got to play with F-15/18/14’s.
Hell even F-20 was better choice due to its armament, flight performance and radar.
in the last 2 - 3 days most of the matches i got in f4j were full downtiers
And? I also occasionally get downtiers in my Swiss premium F-18C and F-20 and both of them claps any Phantom at that br range.
With MLD you get to see 12.0 Phantoms regularly which makes it even more fun considering they are pretty much hopeless against any semi decent MLD player.
wait since when did 12.3 planes saw downtier in the event???
Huh?
I was flying with phantoms against MLD’s in my both F-14B and F-15A during first days, let alone flying with 12.3.
I got bored on first two day so I stopped playing it, unless they changed the event mm after I stopped playing even 13.0 Tomcat was fighting against MLD.
they added 2 different brackets few days after the event started
one bracket was low tier → 11.7
second bracket was 12.3 → 13.0
12.0 planes could go to any bracket in matchmaking
That make sense cause on first couple days it was slaughter for Russia side.
Tomcats and Eagles were dominating the entire lobby, fighting agasint hopeless 11.7
Feel like the MiG-19 is a little slept on honestly, it has an insane energy retention and guns that obliterate the enemy plane in one hit. It’s honestly such a beast except in the full uptier.
Russian bias is a massive issue,
They have the best:
IFV’s
Light tanks
Mbt’s
Helis
CAS
Anti air…
This is just insane and it make alot of the tier unplayable.
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Their MBT’s are not the best despite artificial buffs.
As for other claims I agree.
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Their armor and even when penned their survival is the best ingame with ammoracks and fuel tanks acting as armor, their gun and gun breach seems to have more “HP” as well.
And survivalbility is everything in warthunder since all game modes forces melee to capture point, and it is insane that you can take a hit see the enemy aim and kill.
Also their 50 cals are very good.
Maybe this is artificiell but it affects game balance and makes them dominate.
Faster in both acceleration and top speed, better? radar.
The downside is half the countermeasures which forces it to be BVR focused.
On another note.
Reading about dogfight capabilities of aircraft for 1v1s was funny to read.
So many posts claiming inferiority is meta.
I’m not a meta chaser, but I am playing 2 of the 3 meta nations at 12.7 this year: USA and Germany. Sweden I don’t have.
IFV’s - Sweden, Italy.
Light tanks - USA, Sweden, China. USSR’s “best” light tank is the Sprut-M which isn’t even top 5.
Mbt’s - USA, Germany, Sweden. China as honorable mention, its MBT lineup is better than Japan and USSR’s.
Helis - USA, Britain, Japan, USSR, China, France.
CAS - Japan, USA, USSR, and France. Add in the heli nations not present as well. Israel as honorable mention due to their planes being as good as the 4 listed, but lacking a good heli for 12.7.
Anti air… - All? Tech trees. No one’s getting consistent frag streaks in Su-30MKM, F-15E/I, etc when SPAA is up.
The Su-30SM has better missiles, a better missile loadout and more countermeasures.
The J-15T has better speed/acceleration, MAW and a longer range HMD.
seems like at best a sidegrade, meaning the J-15T should move down to 14.3 or the Su-30SM/MKM should move up to 14.7 (although I would personally prefer the former option). The J-15T is just another perfect example of Gaijin being disconnected from their game sometimes.
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Depends, if you count the BMPT as an IFV then yes.
Nah that one goes to Italy or sweden
Also no, they are a solid 3.8, not great, not terrible.
The MI28NM does have a 0.01 lower KD than the Z10 but higher KpS and more games than all other LDIRCM helis combined so yeah probably true
Cant win against fiction so yeah
Thanks to Gaijin immediately pampering the russia players when one part of the lineup is among the worst ones
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12.7 NATO “giving up” by feeding VBCI kills lol.
I thought 38MT/LMUR slingers would steal all of it in pair with BMPTs.