Type 89 - single 35mm 34 round ready rack w/ lower (120 rounds/min?) ROF (APDS and HE ammo) and 2 non-tandem 700mm ATGMs that go 200m/s which require you to stop to fire
BMP-3 - Singular 30mm gun w/ 330 rounds/min ROF (APDS/AP-T/HE ammo) and a single tandem 750MM ATGM that goes 370m/s and can be fired on the move (26s reload time)
BTR-3E1 - Singular 30mm gun w/ 330 rounds/min ROF (APDS/AP-T/HE ammo) and 2 tandem 800mm ATGMs that go 280m/s which require you to stop to fire
Desert Warrior - Singular 30mm trashmaster w/ 200 rounds/min ROF (APDSFS/APDS) and 2 tandem 800mm ATGMs that go 330m/s which require you to stop to fire (or 2Bs if you want to be worse off)
BMPT - Dual 30mm guns w/ 550 rounds/min ROF (APDS/AP-T/HE/HEI-PD) and 4 tandem 800mm ATGMs that go 550m/s and can be fired on the move
Even just from a pure offensive capability standpoint, the BMPT is vastly better than its 9.3 counterparts. Add on that it gets an unmanned turret with a massive amount of protection against getting fully ammo racked, a resupply box, equal or better thermals, and a very fast single-missile rearm time, and it’s not comparable at all to those 9.0-10.0 “equivalents”.
it’s even more sad when you compare the greater picture of AC vehicles. The Namers/Eitan get the same 30mm bushmaster that you can get at 9.3 with literally no additional benefit to the guns themselves while sitting at the same 11.3 BR. Instead of 4 ready to launch beam riding ATGMs, you get 2 spikes (which you can’t even use at close range on the Eitan and Tsrikhon). You also lose ALL of your ammo if you get ammo racked, which can be done with a single 30mm round from the BMPT.
You miss the first shot (or don’t even have a shot available) and then the BMPT kills your barrel and now what? Sure you can pen more spots on it than it can on you, but it can disable you much quicker.
@SLHavoc
Offensive capabilities are the weapons.
Not turret, not armor, in the case of autocannons not inconsequential differences in rate of fire, the weapons… the actual lethality.
T58 has a better fire rate than Type 10, but it doesn’t matter if the offensive capabilities aren’t the same.
BMPT cannons fire one at a time, so moving the goalposts [BMPT’s followers love doing this apparently] to cannon count is meaningless.
“VT1-2 is better than Leopard 2K cause 2 cannons.” despite both firing DM23.
Also “disable me much quicker” relies on them having a faster reaction time than I, which is a skill matter.
If they have more skill than I, I just back off and safely repair.
Except rate of fire with an autocannon is directly related to the lethality of the weapon system. There is a reason why the trashmaster is called such, while the pen is better on paper, it has less than half the ROF of the BMPT/BMP2M. So even if you take away all the other stuff the BMPT gets, it still has greatly increased offensive capabilities in comparison to the 9.0-9.7 tanks you claim it’s equivalent to.
Yes, the BMPT only fires 1 cannon at a time but having 2 not only gives redundance, increasing ability to continue to lay down fire during engagements, but it also gives you the option to have a separate ammo selected to broaden engagement variety.
Sure, it’s a skill thing if you’re engaging that BMPT on flat ground with a nice perfect view at it. While it’s sitting hull down? Good luck. While it’s rushing around a corner? Better hope that first shot connects.
You also have 9 games in the 2E and a little over a 150 games in all 3 of the Chally 2s combined with less than 200 kills total.
That’s the problem Gaijin favors russians when it comes to being realistic. Gaijin adds the turret baskets for all nato mbts which disable the horizontal drive 0 logic. At the same time Gaijin doesnt want to make the ammo belt if you hit it on the BMPT explode the whole thing. Which it does for several others with tanks with the same setup.
" The gunner defines the aim point by maintaining the sight crosshairs on the target. The launcher automatically steers the missile along the line-of-sight toward the aim point via a one-way radio frequency (RF) link, which links the launcher and missile."
““TOW missiles are employed on the — Bradley Fighting Vehicles variants (A2/A2ODS/A2OIF/A3)””
“The TOW 2B Aero RF is the most modern and capable missile in the TOW family, with an extended maximum range to 4,500 meters. The TOW 2B Aero RF defeats all threat armor systems. The TOW 2B Aero Gen2 also incorporates an advanced counteractive protection system capability.”
So when you post screenshots of your 20-30 games with a supposedly 20-30% NATO winrate it’s the holy grail of proof and absolute truth, but when I post 40 games in my Ariete it’s suddenly dishonest?
You know what? I’m not even suprised, this is typical for people like you.
I don’t think this count as statshaming. Also sometimes using stats is just a means to point out that a persons pov stems from their own skill issue.
(Besides that, good luck to a player like SadRIPer to statshame me, I’d love to see him try).
It’s known as the Coyote LE-SR (TOW), it has a modular payload, and mission set that includes precision strike (and for this variant omits the C-UAS role), It’s basically just an even larger, vehicle borne Switchblade 600.
It obviously shares a linage with the other Coyote developments
