If Pantsir is really the final boss for all helicopters, then you can assume it has obnoxiously good stats against helicopters.
Those high stats would need to get watered down by something to reach current global stats, which is it’s performance against other air units.
You still don’t get what I’m saying.
On the 11th of November several 64Es were added to the game, allowing multiple nations to spawn great helicopters at top tier. Pair that with the fact free AAs are a thing now, which might lead to Pantsir being spawned more often at a BR where it obviously doesn’t belong, which tanks it’s stats.
But hey, I guess you couldn’t think of this and went straight down the path of “free AA users are beyond braindead at controlling one of the easiest classes in the history of gaming”.
Yes, one of the most overpowered AAs in recent years finally can get countered by something and is still maintaining great stats. It’s also worth mentioning that Pantsir sits two BR steps below top tier, so it’ll naturally see weaker enemies than 12.7 AAs, increasing it’s stats in the process.
My assumptions don’t rely on people suddenly going AFK or somehow losing their braincells the moment a helicopter spawns.
Or Pantsir started spawning at higher average BR more often ?
Or how since November, 5 out of 9 nations (not including RU) have LDIRCM helicopter at their disposal, giving Pantsir a higher chance of seeing something extremely dangerous in the air.
Obviously there are other things that can easily tank it’s stats, not just free AA players being so atrocious at their job of controlling one of the easiest vehicle classes in the game.
Little bit of column A and a little bit of column B, the same applies to all free spawn SPAA its not just the Pantsir that seemingly suffered in stats. Im just saying that the January stats might not be the best at showing how good the Pantsir actually is atm especially when the Pantsirs playrate is ludicrous compared to all other SPAA
Not saying it’s a big difference but the turret armour is certainly not cardboard liek teh other blokes making out.
Hulls on nato tanks bar the 2a7 and 122B+ are pretty poor.
well aware mate, as I said 4k hours lol.
Only the abrams really does, the others it usually leads to a volumetric sht show.
the T90Ms specifically is a ripper of a shot trap, T80BVM is more forgiving in the turret ring area.
Brother 2 things, one i don’t have a BMPT and never will.
2 you can absolutely annhiliate almost any and all MBTs in game with fast firing auto cannons irregardless of nation.
2A7, STRV 122, leopard 2PL , CR2s as well have some turret armours on the sides.
Dude produced 2 of the weakest top tier armour wise as justification of russian bias?
Because some fk wit leaked the documents for it years ago and now it’ll never be close to what it is IRL.
You’re using the ariete as a standard “nato” mbt armour whilst it’s widely known as the worst armoured top tier, and is IRL also lacking amrour
The reason I specifically use the T90M as an example is cause you can literally shoot through it’s roof into the crew, the dude said it can hull down better than nato tanks, which is just no true , at all.
Hull armour wise T90M out does the majority of tanks in game, so just don’t shoot it in teh UFP.
Dude also objectively ignored the fact the lelerc has
faster reload by a lot
susbtantially better mobility
better optics last I checked but could be wrong.
is far more applicable to more situations E.G can hull down better as well as brawl better due to enhanced mobility.
I pretty much agree with everything you said except for that one. Id argue that the Leclercs are not that great hull down due to the ridiculous armor hole around the breech that directly leads into the autoloader
Of course.
I’m just saying that free AA users sucking ass is far from the only reason for decrease in performance.
Plenty of nations nowadays have LDIRCM helicopters with strong IR missiles, which will definitely hurt all AAs, Pantsir included. I initially responded to a claim that Pantsir is a final boss to all helicopters, which isn’t really indicated by anything.
ERA has never eaten a dart. You’re speaking over-lapping plates which is on many MBTs and has nothing to do with ERA.
Autoloaders don’t have explosives in their construction.
Pantsir is a non-starter cause it came into the game after the CAS it counters were already power-crept by new CAS.
Object 279 is still over-BR’d despite some normalization from other tech trees; The fact it still shares a BR with over 10 superior vehicles is notable.
IS-7 was never OP. Pe-8 was never OP. Yak-9K being used by skilled players was a minor issue and now they’re rarely used.
Soviet MBTs are inferior to Abrams and Leopard 2A5 at the least, partially due to global mobility being incorrect.
There are NATO MBTs have IRT proxy rounds.
Fire rate in IFVs isn’t as useful as people argue.
All artillery can.
Tiger helicopters are a lower BR than AH-64E/Mi-28NM/Z-10ME, as Tigers should.
Soviet high-caliber heavies are among the most difficult to use for players.
2S38 is quite literally a bit faster Strf 9040C currently until turret rings get fixed.
Oplot is the best T-80 because it has a great round with a 6 second reload while being decently armored and the most mobile of the T-series tanks outside Chinese tanks.
Russia has never been the best since Mig-23ML’s short stint before F-4J and F-14A took over.
