Russian Bias in 2026?

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I think you should reevaluate things you’re saying.

Various 64Es are putting out really good numbers.
This means that they’d have to have crazy good games when Pantsir isn’t present or is on a friendly side, just to mitigate all that punishment they receive when the divine creature is up against them. This looks like a stretch, even for your arguments.

We aren’t talking about a handful spawns and games here, we’re talking about significant number of spawns, which are sitting at almost 1m for January 2026, so your AFK situations and whatnot don’t really have an impact on the end result, unless you want to claim huge number of Pantsir matches are spent by people just AFKing.

After the free AA update I’d confidently say that AAs have the numbers advantage over CAS on average, so 64Es farming unaware Pantsirs is far from your average match experience.

Global stats are more than fine to completely shut down theories like yours that need several wild things to align perfectly over hundreds of thousands of games just to have a sliver of plausibility.

1116

And yet they’re still winning less matches

as it stands right now JAGMs are better than LMURs even missing stats.

I’ve played this game for over 4k hours over the span of more than half a decade, the “russian bias” hasn’t really been a thing, premium bias definitely has been, time and time again.

Be as annoyed as you want, it’s not my fault you bounced onto a forum spoke a bunch of nonsense then can’t handle being told it’s not true.
as has been shown above by the win rates on statshark, your nonsense about 155% win rates as well claiming I’m a Russian main xD

it’s about 3 paragraphs mate, shouldn’t take more than barely 2 minutes to read that, says a lot about yourself xD

1117

Don’t try to reasonate the russian bots man

Russia has it all, they have all the best equipments => you explain them that point by point + show them 30 games in a row with 75% russian winrate 10 times in a row, they’ll just tell you “stop coping Russia bad skill issue”

As a reminder of why Russia is biased :

  • BMPT
  • broken Spikes/MMPs
  • cardboard nato mbt armors
  • broken top down bradley atgm
  • lmurs vs jagms
  • russian eras eating darts/atgms
  • russian autoloader eating darts instead of exploading
  • pantsir-s1 (+ now pantsir 2, even more op)
  • KH-38MT vs maverics
  • object 279, is 7, pe-8, yak 9k, that soviet ship which doesn’t even exist irl
  • russian mbts : mobility equal to nato mbts (at least going forward), not the best pen but don’t need it because nato armor is cardboard and can be pen by anything anywhere, the best armor that can’t be pened except in weakspots (nato mbts have weakspots everywhere), /// nato mbts : mobility +/- equal to russian mbts except going backward, better pen but doesnt matter because you still need to shoot at the weakspots otherwise you don’t pen, cardboard armor which can be pened by anything anywhere
  • russian mbts have irst, proxy he, atgms => some nato mbts simply don’t (none have atgm if I recall btw)
  • russian ifvs are the best (faster rate of fire, laser accuracy cannon, double cannon (1 main with atgm/he and 1 autocannon), quicker, 2/4 atgms) VS nato ifvs : bushmaster which is garbage, spikes/mmps which are broken, wheeled vehicles which are slow, slow fire rate, low accuracy for the bushmaster, 1 singular cannon
  • tiger helicopters are a joke (only 7-8km FnF missiles, 8 missiles max, no ircm, climb slower)
  • Russia can do the cool indirect artillery fire (with the scout drone and all) with their bmp or bmd or whatever, I don’t think it’s possible with a nato vehicle
  • helirush is completely dead (avionics getting broken by 1 12.7mm, 1 .50 cal = your heli is sawn in half, too many autocannon at top tier to perform, rockets usually have a bad day destroying russian mbts and their eras, …). Why am I talking about that ? Because Russia has big fat helicopters not capable of doing fast helirush, so they don’t care about that. NATO do care, because they have little bird, bo 105, gazelles, lynx, …
  • those midtier soviet heavy / medium tanks which bounce everything if they’re angled weirdly. They can also bounce HE shells with tons of kgs of tnt somehow
  • we could add 2s38 (pens everything, weird for an ifv, even weirder when it’s considered a spaa irl), t72 moderna (top tier shell + aps at 11.0 ok), 292 (the pen machine even used at top tier), is-6 back in the days (completely op), …
  • Mi-8AMTSh has 120 rockets wtf ? my 9.7 gazelle has 14 and no ballistic computer (it’s being used nowadays, weird it doesn’t have ballistic computer in 2026 ??)
  • oplot is a t80 but basically bad because it’s western and they don’t do that at gaijin’s. So we’ll just have a bad t80 I guess

I’m probably forgetting some others, but I mean ye the bias is obvious, we all know why, it’s sad because you can’t win and have fun as much as Russia if you play NATO… we’re cooked anyway.

I’ve stated all those several times already

1118

Russian bias is when fat helicopter designed to carry larger loads can carry larger loads.

Me when I lie.

That’s how armour works, and they sacrifice firepower, survivability, and mobility to get that.

These are all average vehicles at the moment. If you’re talking about previous performance levels, I must tell you about the plethora of OP/previously OP non-Russian vehicles.

Russian helicopters are equally bad at heli rushing.

IS-2s are overtiered, Kv-2s are properly BRed.

Turns out autocannon APFSDS makes you decent at destroying tanks, but I thought you would’ve known that by now if you knew anything about Swedish tanks.

What disproves Russian bias?
The French have been dominating air RB for the past 14 months, and only recently has there been a plane on par with the Rafale.
America has by far the best air tree and numerous undertiered planes.
Mig-29 vs F-15A.
11.7-13.0 blufor dominance in air sim.
Many OP premiums and TT vehicles found in other nations, as well as others that were more OP than the BMPT on release.

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1119

Tam 2, turm III, T58 are just 3 off the top of my head

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1 : where is my ballistic computer on the gazelle ?
2 : t-90m has +/- same mobility as nato mbts, except going backward
3 : “that’s how armor works” except when it’s nato armors, because nato armors are cardboard which don’t stop anything
4 : you ignored the rest of the vehicles on purpose because you know I’m right and that Russia has op vehicles in comparaison to other nations which are poo
5 : helirushing is bad, so everyone is bad. But Russia doesn’t have light helicopters that can helirush, so they don’t care about helirushing. Hence it only disavantages NATO helicopters
6 : thank you for reminding me the T-34-85 (STP), fully stabilized at 6.3 like wtf ? another bias. IS-2 eats tigers and t-34s for diner (direct turret front hit and the’re all dead. Cannot say the same with the IS-2, if it’s angled weirdly with its round turret, people know what I mean)
7 : except sweeden, every other nato ifv are crap. Can’t pen a russian lower front plate. 2s38 can pen anything as if it had top tier mbt apfsd

I notice you didnt reply concerning the other FACTS, because you know I’m right. Hence, I won’t answer about those things I just listed, because it would be a way for you to avoid talking about the first things I listed and that you didnt reply to.

What disproves Russian bias?
The French have been dominating air RB for the past 14 months, and only recently has there been a plane on par with the Rafale.
America has by far the best air tree and numerous undertiered planes.
Mig-29 vs F-15A.
11.7-13.0 blufor dominance in air sim.
Many OP premiums and TT vehicles found in other nations, as well as others that were more OP than the BMPT on release.

Concerning the french jets dominating, it’s normal they dominate because IRL (I’m not saying that because I’m french), we have probably the best jets that exist. Their technology is very good. It’s even questionnable if american jets are better. Again, I don’t understand why a russian jet is suddendly better than the french ones, except to impose a bias, once again

We don’t really care about planes anyway, because everybody play GRB, and in GRB, planes focus on tanks => bomb them, missile them or whatever, but never really fight plane vs plane or jet vs jet. So even if 1 nation is better than the other in the air, we can’t really see it in GRB anyway

The only “”“op”“” premiums I recall are the turm/maus/t58. And they’re not “that” op. But the bmpt, 279 back in the days (and still nowadays in some cases), is-6/7 back in the days, pe-8, yak-9k, 2s38 etc are real op vehicles.

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1121

How does it? 60kmph forward is no where near on par with nato MBTs bar maybe thr cr2

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1122

Stev122 is the most armoured top tier

1123

Same. I’m a gluten for punishment I guess.

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1124

It’s the same, you never reach max speed in the middle of a fight, hence t90m and nato mbts go basically at the same speed mid fight, one is not disavantaged compared to the other during a fight

We could talk about how it’s useless for nato mbts to go to max speed 80kmph to flank/take a good position as russian mbts just have to camp hull down somewhere and kill everyone to win a match /// rush you in an urban corner and kill you (so your flank/quick good positionning is useless), but we wont

And I said I wouldn’t argue with you anymore, I feel like you’re a russian bot who wants to defend Russia just because he has a lineup he doesn’t want to be nerfed. Pointless to talk with you, you have an ideology, which is to defend Russia at any cost

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1125

It is what it is, we put money in those wrong premiums, sadly (at least I did, and I regret that. Would have had a lot of fun if I chose Russia instead. And I would have won 70% of the time, the dream)

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1126

It probably never had one, and I wouldn’t expect everything to be the same on Russian vs non Russian vehicles. Doesn’t the Gazelle get ATGMs and doesn’t need a ballistic computer?
Also, did you know that the Mi-24A is 8.7 without one too? Infact, it was recently removed and stayed at the same BR.

Top speed != mobility.

NATO vehicles have armour, just look at the Leo 2A7s. However I do agree that they are underperforming compared to IRL.

I know the Yak-9K is OP, but the others you mentioned just aren’t.

This makes no sense/

It is stabilized the 76mm Jumbo (and not a full stab), which is a significantly better tank.

The Tiger Is can do the same with their nuke shell without suffering through a 20 second reload.

Because there isn’t bias if they weren’t the best for an entire year.

This is just an excuse to not talk about the OP non Russian vehicles.

What’s OP about the PE-8?
Also, if we are talking about previously OP vehicles, you have the EBR (1954), J-7D, Harrier Gr.1 on release, and that’s just naming a few.

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1127

Once again, you’re missing the point. You cannot compare two vehicles in a vacuum by using global statistics because those statistics don’t tell you enough detail.

If you can’t break down global statistics and what they represent, then you shouldn’t be using them, it’s as simple as that.

If you want to say the IRIST is more effective at taking out helicopters because it has a higher KD than a Pantsir, then be my guest lol.

From the looks of it, seems like you agree that the Mi-28NM is better than the Apaches when it comes to CAS because it has a better KD than it. The Dutch Apache does slightly better but since French players are typically experienced, it makes sense why it has a high KD.

If the Mi-28NM was in France, then it would perform significantly better than the Dutch Apache. This is according to your logic…

I disagree that the Apache is worse but since you seem to rely on very vague data points, it’s no surprise you’d think like this.

Unless… You rely on Global Statistics when it fits your narrative…

1128

The t90M certainly does not go thr same speed as nato contemporaries in combat mate, I’ve got one.

Nato mbts hull down better as they uave more than -5 gun depression, and better armoured turrets.
Can kill the t90 shooting through its roof.

Please tell me what needs nerfed ? 😂 my main top tier nation is USA with about 1000 games between my abrams, and about half that in CR2s alone.

So again how am i a russian bot? You’ve taken to insulting someone because they’ve used factual evidence against you.

Grow up.

1129

Dude acting like T58 didnt completely annihilate the 8.3 area.
Type 90 didnt wreck 11.0 - 12.0
irist t isnt the strongest SPAA in game yet.
J7D
Youve now got the draken under BRd dominating.
F15A now the same BR as the objectively worse Mig29

Shall i continue?

1130

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If you look at the 0-30 times, the Russian MBTs aren’t the best. The BVM is mobile, but it isn’t extraordinarily so.

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1131

JAGM are in no way better than LMUR

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1 : gazelle is used nowadays in Ukraine and parts of Africa, I can’t believe it doesn’t have a ballistic computer. It’s modern tech, we are at the modern age. The gazelle is 9.7, not 8.7. Russian 9.7 helis have ballistic computer, why not Gazelle ? Bias.

2 : yes that’s what I’m saying. They don’t have the same top speed, but they do have +/- the same mobility.

3 : The only mbts which have armors ingame are : t-series, leos, strvs (which are leos). All the other ones (which are nato ofc) have paper armor everywhere : abrams, leclercs, challengers, arietes, merkavas, types, tkx. In other words, NATO have cardboard mbt armors lol.

4 : and what they’re doing to balanced the yak-9k ? Nothing. Bias.

5 : yes it does make sense. Russia doesn’t need to do helirush, because they don’t have light helis (so they can’t do helirush). Thus, the only nations which can do helirush are NATO. But helirush is broken. So NATO is disadvantaged, again (nobody wants to use a Little-Bird for anything else than helirush. But when you try to helirush with little-bird, you instantly die, for the reasons I already gave).

6 : the 76mm jumbo is not fully stabilized.

7 : you’ll bounce most of the time with tiger II/t34 shells against an is-2 turret (or one of those medium t34 turrets) if they’re angled weirdly, with their round turret. The modeling is just broken, they can eat a shell like if it was nothing, even from tiger 2.

8 : Russia has been the best everywhere for 14 years now.

9 : we can talk about them, but we have to talk about the su-30s dominating every top tier grb game first.

10 : back in the days (and for several, several years before we can see some nato equivalence), the pe-8 was the only op plane capable of destroying a whole team with 1 single bomb. For years, I remind you. The ebr was not op, it was just one of the first flanker in low tier back in the days. So it was considered “op” because everyone was heavy and slow. Harrier, it was just for the meme because it had that vertical fly capability. But it’s garbage anyway

And the important thing here is : they, maybe, were op back in the days, but not anymore. Today, even op russian vehicles back in the days are still op nowadays. That’s called a bias.

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tbf, most of the stuff that is faster is a br or two lower

the only top tier stuff there that out accelerates it are the leclercs and WZ1001

1134

I stopped reading at “Nato mbts have better armor”. You’re trying to ragebait me, good job

I’ll put u in ignore mode now