Russian Bias in 2025?

Nice top tier planes right there.

Because SPAA and CAP is way more powerful. The effectivenes of something is not only determined by a single weapon, it’s the entire plane.
Yea the SU25SM3 was once very broken, now it’s not, because it sits on a shit platform and it can’t deal with fox 3 spam or the new AA.
Except if fly in, get your kills and dying is good and effective in your mind.

Honeslty, i don’t care if you believe me or not.
But you yourself are saying hammers were the same amount of broken, or maybe 80% there because they are slower, and my stats prove that.

Oh and btw, if in your mind you can’t determine KDR in GRB, neither you can total kills. So a non argument anyway.

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China got like negative bias to it from Gaijin. I say that as an German mainly playing Germany and China. Like so much Stuff missing or nerfed for them and in simpler Stuff like the Individualization you can make for them too; 90% of their Vehicles don’t get their historical Camouflage at all or it is only accesible on Marketplace or during FOMO Event / BP. Compare that to the dozen Camouflages and Decals others get.

And many Reports like missing spall liner accepted / acknowledged by Gaijin like two years ago…still nothing…but then they gave already much more armoured and powerful Tanks like STRV-122’s or T-90 a spall liner when China needed them more. And 99A UFP is also missing tons of Armour; DTC10-125 is nerfed; their Reload is slower than IRL too and whole Line Up is smaller and weaker than that of others who got alone more in MBTs accessible at Top than China has in total stuff there.

And you literally die to like anything in their MBTs and the Darts also kinda behave more gimpy than those of other Nations; don’t have that problem when i play Germany or my Premium USSR Line Up

And China at least at high / Top Tier; like above 9BR it could very well become an major Nation because theres still so much cool Stuff left to be added.

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I mean for about half of that year it was only on a Su-25. So people weren’t too bothered because it was a good missile on a shit platform unable to use the range to it’s fullest potential.

It was not until november 2024 with the addition of the Su-34 with Kh38s where Russian CAS became truely problematic.

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They do get some nice stuff here and there though like laser range finders at 7.7/8.0

Then why, on a plane that’s much more effective than the Su-34 (K/D is even twice as high!), are you getting fewer kills? What impacts the enemy team more: killing 3 players or killing 2? On all the BRs I’ve played(doesn’t matter whether the bombs are smart or dumb) killing 3 matters more than killing 2. But at top tier, I guess it’s different. Please, tell me how it works there.

It was actually until the addition of the Su30 when they could spawn a fighter and a striker.
The Su34 itself is still a shit platform.

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This is not about the concurrent conversation, but relates to the overall thread<< (Its my first time on the forums and this seems the best place to put this, if this breaks rules just lmk and i’ll delete it)
Context:
I’ve played since the FGR.2 got the first ever PD/V radar (granted, diff sparrow) and i’ve never seen this. I have also had the F-16AJ for a few months now and these are my first downtiered games where i have jousted against MiG-23’s - yet in the span of less than 24 hours i’ve had this happen TWICE, and theres no answer for it far as i can find. It cant be relocking onto another missile as i have not encountered this issue against AIM-120/R-77-1/Fakour/R27ER slingers - that and you can see i am not locking the missile.
I just dont know what this is. Theres got to be some sort of explanation - but even then i find it hard to believe it to be coincidental that it is MiG-23’s both times, in both identical situations, when i have no issues with the same situation against other planes
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kXTJJbFR11cH-Y7nn?invite=cr-MSxySGgsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=50
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kXU3GML5avTHak6_v?invite=cr-MSxJQ2EsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=90
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kY89Qv0GkL_TeTb4W?invite=cr-MSx2SHIsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=41
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kY8d23PtF9r722QFD?invite=cr-MSw5QlAsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=90

With both planes you can fill up the killfeed with a kill for every weapon launched, there is no difference.

Lolwut? People were freaking out, judging by this forum. Specifically about the Su-25SM3 + Pantsir combo. Were you asleep the entire past year?

Or it was mainly US mains beeing salty their sole reign of beeing the CAS gods was over.

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In your case specifically, there’s a difference between 3.05 and 2.38. And I’m still waiting for you to explain it to me.

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No, as a britain main - i was infact angry at the capabilities of the Su-25SM3 and the fact all of our air defence was incapable of stopping it. Especially with the Pantsir shutting down any CAP sorties anyone wanted to try and use to counter said Su-25

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Fair, top tier GRB definitely got much much worse when they added the Su-30SM.

It was still a potent CAS plane, The F-15E being added at the same time while bing much much better was a problem for the Su-34. Tornado Gr.4 had a similar problem.

People always freak out. Hell people freaked out about the T-90M and the truely idiotic people still rank it as one of the best MBTs in game.

But I kind of phrased it wrong, let me rephrase:

“Most sensible people weren’t too bothered until they added the Su-34 and Su-30 with Kh38s”

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I am not disagreeing, it was broken. You had to spawn a plane to kill it, which britain had a good way to do it in the Gripen.

Unless the pantsir finds you first, which 9/10 times it did

Holy moly, 0.7 difference ? Thats wild man. Count in the air kills and you are at 0 or a plus if it makes you happy.

ZTZ96 is 9.3 while its competitors are 10.0.
ZTZ59D is 8.3 while its competitors are 8.7 and 9.0.

China does not have “negative bias”, it has American/German main syndrome.

Which is a skill issue.

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Me never dying to Pantsir in fighters…
I died to Pantsir 2 or 3 times in CAS.
1 was intentional, 1 was flying straight at it, 1 was forgetting my ranging.

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“Model: 1RS1”
“Range: 28 Miles”
“Search Zone: 360x80”

Last i checked, your plane spawns at barely 10 miles. (Back then)
And unless you want to side-scrape the battlefield by over 9 Miles, then be my guest. But you’re not exactly going to find that Su-25SM3 - let alone engage it - from that distance with AIM-9M’s or Skyflash (DF)'s.

And mate if you’re gonna just resort to the “skill issue” statement rather than actually engage in conversation, nobody is gonna take you seriously pal. Get a grip