Russian Bias in 2025?

I mean for about half of that year it was only on a Su-25. So people weren’t too bothered because it was a good missile on a shit platform unable to use the range to it’s fullest potential.

It was not until november 2024 with the addition of the Su-34 with Kh38s where Russian CAS became truely problematic.

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They do get some nice stuff here and there though like laser range finders at 7.7/8.0

Then why, on a plane that’s much more effective than the Su-34 (K/D is even twice as high!), are you getting fewer kills? What impacts the enemy team more: killing 3 players or killing 2? On all the BRs I’ve played(doesn’t matter whether the bombs are smart or dumb) killing 3 matters more than killing 2. But at top tier, I guess it’s different. Please, tell me how it works there.

It was actually until the addition of the Su30 when they could spawn a fighter and a striker.
The Su34 itself is still a shit platform.

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This is not about the concurrent conversation, but relates to the overall thread<< (Its my first time on the forums and this seems the best place to put this, if this breaks rules just lmk and i’ll delete it)
Context:
I’ve played since the FGR.2 got the first ever PD/V radar (granted, diff sparrow) and i’ve never seen this. I have also had the F-16AJ for a few months now and these are my first downtiered games where i have jousted against MiG-23’s - yet in the span of less than 24 hours i’ve had this happen TWICE, and theres no answer for it far as i can find. It cant be relocking onto another missile as i have not encountered this issue against AIM-120/R-77-1/Fakour/R27ER slingers - that and you can see i am not locking the missile.
I just dont know what this is. Theres got to be some sort of explanation - but even then i find it hard to believe it to be coincidental that it is MiG-23’s both times, in both identical situations, when i have no issues with the same situation against other planes
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kXTJJbFR11cH-Y7nn?invite=cr-MSxySGgsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=50
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kXU3GML5avTHak6_v?invite=cr-MSxJQ2EsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=90
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kY89Qv0GkL_TeTb4W?invite=cr-MSx2SHIsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=41
https://medal.tv/games/war-thunder/clips/kY8d23PtF9r722QFD?invite=cr-MSw5QlAsNjk1NzUwMDE&v=90

With both planes you can fill up the killfeed with a kill for every weapon launched, there is no difference.

Lolwut? People were freaking out, judging by this forum. Specifically about the Su-25SM3 + Pantsir combo. Were you asleep the entire past year?

Or it was mainly US mains beeing salty their sole reign of beeing the CAS gods was over.

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In your case specifically, there’s a difference between 3.05 and 2.38. And I’m still waiting for you to explain it to me.

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No, as a britain main - i was infact angry at the capabilities of the Su-25SM3 and the fact all of our air defence was incapable of stopping it. Especially with the Pantsir shutting down any CAP sorties anyone wanted to try and use to counter said Su-25

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Fair, top tier GRB definitely got much much worse when they added the Su-30SM.

It was still a potent CAS plane, The F-15E being added at the same time while bing much much better was a problem for the Su-34. Tornado Gr.4 had a similar problem.

People always freak out. Hell people freaked out about the T-90M and the truely idiotic people still rank it as one of the best MBTs in game.

But I kind of phrased it wrong, let me rephrase:

“Most sensible people weren’t too bothered until they added the Su-34 and Su-30 with Kh38s”

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I am not disagreeing, it was broken. You had to spawn a plane to kill it, which britain had a good way to do it in the Gripen.

Unless the pantsir finds you first, which 9/10 times it did

Holy moly, 0.7 difference ? Thats wild man. Count in the air kills and you are at 0 or a plus if it makes you happy.

ZTZ96 is 9.3 while its competitors are 10.0.
ZTZ59D is 8.3 while its competitors are 8.7 and 9.0.

China does not have “negative bias”, it has American/German main syndrome.

Which is a skill issue.

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Me never dying to Pantsir in fighters…
I died to Pantsir 2 or 3 times in CAS.
1 was intentional, 1 was flying straight at it, 1 was forgetting my ranging.

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“Model: 1RS1”
“Range: 28 Miles”
“Search Zone: 360x80”

Last i checked, your plane spawns at barely 10 miles. (Back then)
And unless you want to side-scrape the battlefield by over 9 Miles, then be my guest. But you’re not exactly going to find that Su-25SM3 - let alone engage it - from that distance with AIM-9M’s or Skyflash (DF)'s.

And mate if you’re gonna just resort to the “skill issue” statement rather than actually engage in conversation, nobody is gonna take you seriously pal. Get a grip

Exactly. That’s more than 22%.

Air kills when trying to evaluate an air-to-ground missile?

My god stop yapping already and making it look like a big deal of stuff you don’t understand.

Effectiveness of planes doesn’t stop with it’s ATGM’s.