Russian Bias in 2024?

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Hold on here, best ATGMs but only frontal hits, spikes can lock on to helis and shoot them down, korrent cant really do that unless heli is within 800m distance. Yes they have the best ERA, but era is frontal armor only. Lower glacias shots and side shots most of the time result in one hit frag. Yes there have been updates where the carrousel autoloader has had extra survivability but that is becuase it became to easy to shoot at T-series tanks. Within the last few days I don’t really notice that it is such a major problem spall liners have indeed been nerfed over the past week.
Yes they have a much better AA system in comparison to ADATS but, ITOM missiles in game perform just as well as panstir ones. Pantsir ofcourse has only one advantage its two guns.

As for air ground cas rb US just got the new premium harrier which is pretty much the same as the SM3. It has zoom flies at comfortable speeds that allow you to pick targets and engage them.
HSTVL is around to help out, the counter to 2s38 much better armor and ability to handle sabot rounds.

Leo tanks overpower t-series tanks its just that they dont have the same level of CAS support as the harrier has or SM3.

Otherwise air rb well that is lagerly dominated but US at the moment, I dont know how it is at the moment but a few weeks ago AIM120s outperformed R-77s by quit a bit.

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So Gaijin intentionally gimps other nations so Russia won’t be obsolete? But they have no problem when vehicles of other nations are obsolete (Basically all SPAAs against KH-38’s) due to Russian vehicles? You just proved there’s a bias.

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US has the best cas at basically every br but I guess we should ignore that because Russia gets a bathtub with good missiles

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KH-38’s are the best air to ground missiles right now, Vikhyrs is the best continous guided heli missile marginally better than Hellfires or AKDs.

No, because of Gaijin’s wrong implementation, ERA gets more effective when angled and both T-80BVM and T-90M have ERA bags on the side.

So does 90% of other tanks in top tier, most of them has way easier weakspots to shoot.

They still have less range than KH-38’s, but that’s not a problem for Pantsir, it can easily see and take down ATGM’s from 12km.

Can ItO 90M also see targets on HUD with TWS? and does it have auto lead? Genuinely asking because I don’t have it.

How? does it’s Mavericks can reach Mach 2? Can it fire from further than Pantsir? (it’s 11.3 and will still see 11.7 Pantsir often). Does ADATS also have 20km range to also provide cover for them by taking out or at least scaring enemy planes? And it’s premium unlike the SM3, premium and event vehicle bias often applies to most nations.

Leopard 2A7’s and Strv 122’s overpower every other tank, not just T series. But T series also does overpower everything else below them. Before those added T-80BVM was the single best tank in the game for years, then they added T-90M with spall liners, no other leopard despite having them IRL got theirs until russian tank that had them added. Because of complaints Gaijin did add them but also nerfed them.

Right now yes, before that the Su-27’s were dominating. Like I said, just because it has 2 shortcomings doesn’t mean it doesn’t excel by big margin in every other factor. Tell me another nation that has very good tanks, best SPAA, best CAS and very good helis at the same time? There isn’t one! Every other nation suffers in one or multiple regards either lacking CAS or good tanks or SPAA etc…
And USA doesn’t dominate alone like Russia, 8 out 10 countries in game have a plane that shoots AMRAAMS, Japan and Israel also have F-15 with 8 of them and France has the almost identical F-16C as CAS option, there for it’s still way more balanced than Russia is.

EDIT: and only reason Russia suffers in these regards is because there isn’t much left to add, T-90M and T-80BVM is already the most modern tanks Russia uses. Meanwhile USA still doesn’t have it’s most modern tank SEP V3 added despite being much worse than 2A7, and it didn’t even get the proper shell upgrades it had, M829A3 and A4. SEP V2 is literally worse than the previous one with no removable TUSK package and they didn’t even add Trophy to make it at least unique.

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I do believe US and especially Israel need to get better AA systems, they are not at the same level, as for anti CAS aircraft US can engage su25sm3s that is the best counter to them -f-16s.
For me the question is, can DU hull armor lower glacias section truly stop 3bm-59 (Du penetrator about 745mm in length) if it cant then added armor wont really make a difference.

As for overpowering monsters, there are past bvm and 90m tanks. They have the black eagle 152mm gun able to fire vaccum1 and 2 rounds, rumors circulate about griffel round. There is also the Burlak tank in development and of course Armata.

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So I should be spending 600-700 SP to spawn F-16 with Fox-3’s when Russia can do pretty much the same with only 70 or 90 SP? And this is fair in your eyes? And If Gaijin really wanted a competition to SM3 then why did they increased the SP cost of Fox-3’s? If I’m suppose to use planes to defeat CAS then it should be only few 100-200 SP to spawn them without CAS loadout and it would suit USA doctrine, they have the biggest Aviation in the world.

Not everybody uses the single shell in top tier and armor does add up when angled. It could at least make other players aim before clicking on Abrams or stop random shots sent from bushes etc.

They can’t easily add them without causing controversy, if we’re talking about non service tanks there’s plenty overpowered tanks for USA too but they will never add them since we don’t even have the service tanks in the game.

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Maybe they should add all the overpowered together, we will have monster vs monster fights, sabot rounds around 900mm in length dulling it out. Make others like the Germans and Swedes think twice about bulling everyone on the map.

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Shot a BT-5 twice with HEAT-FS at 6.3 and both shots bounced.

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So you accept there’s a bias? And they also use make up stats that favor these vehicles/weapons, even admitted themselves on using wrong stats for 2S6 Tunguska but keeping it that way anyway.

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No one is saying they should not have added the 2a7, they should have added an equivalent to it like the Burlak tank for example and Sepv3. That would have been more balanced.

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I haven’t played Tungi in awhile, last time i did, it did zilch against most top tier air assets.

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Eh T-90M are already 2A7V counterparts in term of electronic and armor but it suck because of design flaw in Russian fashion tank (can have more gun depression because it don’t have enough space in turret to do so but reverse gear it total engineer fault
SEP V3 maybe need sure

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Now imagine how bad the ADATS is with only having IRST tracking with slightly faster missiles but placed a whole BR higher.

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If we had more spacious maps, where you had more time to maneuver and battles were not around 500m distance then to an extent yes . But in short range maps where reverse speed and reload matter then 90m is not an equivalent.

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Ohh ADATS yes I have about 5 nations top tier. That is true ADATS suffers its not an equivalent to pantsir.
But I am afraid those a systems from different time periods.

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SEP V3 is still not an equivalent tank to 2A7, even if they add the kevlar lining that reduces spall amount and spread, it’s won’t be as good as spall liners.

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But then again A3 should be able to pen frontal armor and should be able to get to positions to outmaneuver the 2A7.

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No tech tree has the best SPAA.
Best ATGM goes to the Mokopa, though you probably meant surface to surface then it’s mostly personal preference… but if you want penetration + explosive filler at-BR then that goes to a 3-way tie: HOT-2: 900mm at 87 with 6.5kg-e, HJ-9 at 9.3/9.7 with 1200mm pen & 4kg-e, and 9M133 at 10.0 with 1200mm pen & 6.3kg-e.
Spall liners? When has 2A5+ ever been Russian?
Top 5 helicopters are all non-Soviet: Rooivalk, International, Tiger, AH-60, and Z-10.

Congrats on finally learning what bias is and proving to everyone here there is no Russian bias.

Russian propaganda. Overt propaganda. Vikhr is not top 5 in missiles let alone anywhere close to the best.

Speed of fire & forget AGMs does not matter as much as you claim.

T-80BVM was never the best tank in the game. NEVER. More Russian propaganda in your posts…
T-80BVM was added in 2021, people didn’t start doing anything with it until late 2022. Abrams dominated throughout T-80BVM’s first year of existence because skilled players still played Abrams back then.

Also Leopards got spall liners… more misinformation in your posts.

Su-27s were never dominating. F-15A is superior to Su-27 in every way… More Russian propaganda in your posts.

If you saw Su-27s doing well, you saw the best players; cause that aircraft does not hold players hand’s. Bad RWR, bad radar, and okay flight performance.
There’s a reason we still correctly complain that the F-15 is chronically under-BR’d.

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Not with Gaijins implementation, they nerf all the shells so nobody can pen Russian tanks.

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And now you’re spewing Russian propaganda that Lanz-Odermatt, a swiss mathematician, is a Gaijin employee.
No, just no…

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