Why are you obsessing over Tornados when you have EFT ?
Then drop it down in BR ?
It’s already at 12.3.
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Su34 is miles better than a GR4 mate. the GR4 is a flying bus, the Su34 is a flying airbreak thats massive.
The su34 compared to an EF2000 is a brick, but the GR4 compared to the su34 is also a brick.
Never said it wasn’t.
EFT can do everything Tornado can, so talking about latter is pointless.
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Same reason why RU keep SU-27sm and MiG-29SMT when they have SU-34
Or
German keep Tornado ASSTA when EFT exist
Or why US keep their F-16C when they have F-15E
you might need them as back up cut the SP cost
It not pointless
27SM does CAP much better than Su-34.
Tornado does nothing better than EFT.
It clearly is as EFT is a massive upgrade over Tornado.
Either EFT has to be above 12.7 or Tornado should be below 12.3, that single BR step definitely isn’t enough.
Yep this is what i was talking about. Ammo just turning red/yellow (lmao) . And not just Soviet tank btw.
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This thread achieved degenerative brain rot status quite a while ago, expect moments like this. I’ve been trying to read through it but so many completely idiotic statements have been made I can’t say something about them all.
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Whats the point in your comment other than trying to make a dig at folks who disagree with yourself?
None.
Edit changing “n” to “and”
stop trynna chime in with something after the dust has settled and its stopped , you wee rabble rouser.
Not overall. Smin has made it veryyy clear that Gaijin’s balancing is majorly based on how much RP & SL a vehicle managed, hence why F-4F Late, back in F-14A meta, despite pulling 15% WR and overall K/D of 0.5 did not get 9Ls, because it was earning enough RP & SL via base bombing. Yes, Gaijin does take overall stats into account a little bit, especially if a vehicle is standing out of line too much, but overall balancing is based on RP & SL earning.
For a bit yes.
And when was that? In 2021, based on youtube, 7.3
In 2020 it was at 7.7
8.0 in 2016 (same as Leopard 1A1A1s)
7.7 in 2018
7.7 in 2019
At the time of its introduction in 2015, it didn’t even have a BR, it had a “tier”, i.e Tier V.
Agreed!
It was definitely 7.3 for a good chunk of its lifespan, as it was a great addition to the RU-251
7.3, yes, but he’s talking about it being AT 7.0, which it never was.
ARB is different than GRB as it has PvE element which will provide you with pretty decent RP/SL gains without even being engaged by another player once.
In GRB, most of your RP/SL gains come from kills/assists which are obviously hard stats.
This just proves further that SL & RP are looked at more than “hard stats”, since the former in GRB is a result of the latter in 90% of occassions (the 10% being when you get a super lucky streak of capping multiple times).
Aaand the rUsSiAn BiAs people came, fantastic
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In GRB that RP/SL gain is directly (and almost exclusively) connected to kills/assists aka hard stats, so it’s pretty safe to say that hard stats determine the balance of vehicles in GRB.
ARB is different though as I already said.
I’m pretty sure for a period of time it was. Not a long period mind you, but it definitely has been all over the 7.0 - 8.0 area
I’ve checked the one place that always keeps data on when a vehicle was criminically undertiered, reddit, there is no mention of 7.0
I’m pretty sure he’s confusing the Leo 1 with M48A2C which WAS at 7.0 for a time.
Lmao Reddit isn’t the best site for that.
Delusional as always, let’s rather not see the huge advantages that Russia has and years of Kamovs domination over the battlefield and let’s focus on how they’re so bad when an AA has spawned, when there’s literally 95% of every match you play against Israel,Britain,USA, all of these nations you get to fight against has shit SPAAs but Muh give us FnF so we can have more broken stuff than we already got.
Second best nation in the game, Vikhrs can intercept Tanks,Jets,Missiles, KH38 +20km range with 6 of them on the SU34, but somehow it’s not enough, and let’s not forget how the autoloader acts as a spall liner which is the subject of the topic.
Making Russia look weak is not working.