So why doesn’t the Russian ammo carousel cook off in the same manner?
is it above the fire?
Oh heat only goes up it doesn’t spread through the container it’s inside.
I had no idea Russian tank design was so good!
Those dumb NATO tanks putting a solid gap between their ammo and their engine compartment, what were those idiots thinking.
They should have stored it 2 feet away in a container! Then the heat would have never bothered it!
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look, I’ve never before defended Russian “Technology” but your point is so unbelievably bad it’s embarrassing
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look if you do BBQ, do you put the steaks ontop or next to the fire? or maybe do you think there is nothing between the engine and the crew in a tank?
can you imagine how stupid of a deisgn it would be to just not have a small plate between the loud, hot engine and the crew? even your Car has one
My “point” is that currently Abrams ammo cooks off because of a fire in a different section of the tank which is separated by armor and air.
There is no logical situation where an engine fire produces enough heat for the ammo inside SEALED containers would cook off without having killed the entire crew first.
Arguing otherwise ignores physics and reality.
Combine this with engine fires having absolutely zero effect on Russian ammo carousels and you might have a little bias hard coded in to the game.
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a container being sealed doesn’t make it Heat resistent, especially if its a Metal container
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Tell that to the Russian ammo carousel.
A carousel autoloader is quite resistant to damage. Many parts of it are non critical to continued operation (although losing these parts is not ideal).
Autoloaders in general should be modeled to take damage.
I say this as a French player, it’s not logical that an autoloader wouldn’t lose operational speed from a direct hit.
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The only critical part on a soviet autoloader (T-80 style specifically) due to its design would be a tiny arm that lifts each round individually but to get to it you have to go through ammo so its a moot point (as it is for most tanks with autoloaders).
People take less ammo so as to avoid ammo detonation if the top rack is hit, this would still be hittable then, no?
True. Anyone have a source for auto ignition temp of modern tank rounds? I found an older source the stated that at about 240 degree C, it “very rapidly combusts”
No. The T-80 autoloader style only holds 28 rounds. 8 rounds is not enough to have no ammo on both sides except maybe near the edges but even then you wouldn’t be able to hit the arm (I am taking a minimum of 20 rounds because under that you run out of ammo very quick).
How pray tell is the crew inside the tank alive at this temperature
Assuming it it the abrams, the crew is in a seperate compartment from the ammo. For the russians, the crew will die before ammo is cooked enough for auto ignition.
In a Russian tank the ammo is closer to the engine in the Abrams the ammo is completely separated from the engine compartment.
I would assume there is some sort of seperation between the ammo and engine. Unless the russians are just rawdogging it and have no compartments in their tanks
As there is a separation between the Abrams ammo storage and the engine.
Even more so as there is a gap of open air.
So why is it the ammo cooks off from a fire in a completely separated position while Russian ammo which is directly next to an engine fire is immune to said effects?
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I am guessing thermodynamics. A piece of metal sitting over a fire touchs the flames will heat up much more than one next to it.