its interesting to me how no one mentioned the small bias before, i never noticed this until today because i was looking if all nations had the same RP Requirement for helis
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Yes, heli grind is absolutely awfull.
Playing Heli in the Heli gamemode is just the worst, takes forever to fly to the enemy, and RP gain i just bad. I research them with the tank tree since i have already researched top tier in tanks. But even this is painfully slow, and literally the worst grind in game, aswell as Rank IV coastal boats. Not fun :(
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I spent an hour and a half for one match and the reward was only 1,000 SL, and I could only use the initial helicopter.
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Where is bias? Amount of helis in italian tech tree is smaller, so every helicopter costs more sp.
Compare m36b1 and japanese m36 - first one costs 54k rp, while second 46k. Japanese bias?
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Ah yes, it’s a bias then *check notes* then you have to tech almost identical 9.7 heli twice (and 24P is a bit more expensive, but it just 10k RP, so irrelevant)
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yeah it can be irrelevant tho, small amount. but idk the fact that Italy for example has to grind more RP for a helicopter with just x4 atgms,no AAMS and no countermeasures, meanwhile the most spammed nation has to grind less for an heli with x192 countermeasures, AAMS, and AGMS seems weird to me. there is a big difference on a 150.00RP worth heli from a 380k RP worth one.
Anyways, coming back to the principal topic of my post RP should be reduced for all nations.
I mean, if you really want to, there’s Hungarian Mi-24D which is 150k RP and armed similar to Mi-24A (same rockets and Phalanga missiles), but unlike Soviet Mi-24A it have countermeasures (128) and IRCM module
No arguments here. Even with ground assist grinding is a chore (and dont let me start about individual modules)
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That’s because there are just more vehicles in the line compared to other TTs and more helicopters on that rank.
Look at UH-1B in the American TT, 99k RP, that’s complete Bussian Rias!1!1
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Just play sim ground battles.
V and P, while having the same suspended armament, have, completely separate gun system, P having the GSh-30-2, and the V having the YaK-B 12.7 MG.
I guess it’s “bias” to have two with close to identical capabilities at the same BR, because it’s balances it properly, I don’t see any issue with it, because it’s more in the way of the Ka helis and the Mi-28.
Or PvE, it is reasonably fast
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Bump cause Gaijin really needs to fix this. three times the grind for a copy paste heli on most trees is insane.
Also the ground RP gain is a joke with premium vehicles and time, so grinding the equivalent of a top tier tank for a rank 6 heli is beyond insane
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Getting mod for heli is also insane, unplayable.
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imo they should raise heli profit 10 times… Imagine getting only 1500rp after a 3 kill 0 death match of 10min playtime = match length.
https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/345615764909931406?public_key=UOWlwLc8M1wOUKRPSEy9
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Similar to coastal boats of naval mode. Only way to grind is to get a premium boat or suffer 150rp.
At least helicopter players can unlock helicopters by tank
I don’t mind stuff like the KA52 etc. being 400k RP, but stuff like the mi24’s being nearly 300k etc. sucks.
And premium helis aren’t for grinding helis, they are just something you can buy that has all the modifications unlocked and skip the grind. Heli RP from helis themselves are terrible, in GRB and in Heli PvE. You HAVE to use tanks to grind them, and you have to GE mods unless you are a literal pyscho.
Modifications are the big thing. I’m grinding the ka52 and mi28 and it sucks sure, but what sucks even more is after all that pain, I’m gonna have to spend at bare minimum 4k GE per vehicle to make them even useable, so I’m grinding like 100’s of hours for 2 helis just for the priviledge of having to spend about 40 dollars to make each of them actually flyable.
Ground gains are terrible, that applies to CAS as well. The problem is activity time is the majority of your RP/SL gains, and you don’t exactly live too long in helis, I guess you could spawn, afk for 2 minutes then go fight to stretch it out. Actually does make finding some busted position to play worth the time for sure if you care about grinding out mods and aren’t just buying them.
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trying to unlock atgm for the german Mi24 and the grind for the mods is fucking absurd
I just GE them, id rather suck off a homeless person for GE than try to grind mods on helis. Pretty sure that is what snail wants with how bad it is setup.
the worst part is the 1st level of ATGMs are at Tier 3 so i need to grind the whole tier 1 and 2 just using rockets to just get an ATGM on a 9.7 helicopter 💀
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