those has a2a capabilities and the b1 does not? All you are going to do is be beaten to bases by fighters and then raped to death by supersonic fighters.
@Sternlos
B-1B itself is supersonic on the deck, and it’s not going to see the F-111F and Mig-23ML.
It’s going to see primarily slower aircraft.
Again, you’re making things up.
Show us where Mig-23BN is getting abused by others, cause it isn’t.
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I never said the mig23bn was being bullied. I said a bomber with no a2a capability, in a game where the only thing worthwhile for strike craft is killing bases, where if you take more than just enough bombs for 1 base your rewards are heavily nerfed, is not something anyone would want to play.
Bombing bases is boring anyways, if a plane just exists to race everyone else to a single base and repeat this over and over again who is going to do that for anything but grinding? You can’t fight other planes, you have to fight your own team for bases… The whole thing is retarded and needs to be completely reworked so strike craft have a purpose.
At 10.x there are plenty of fighters with napalm loadouts that will beat the b1 to a base, and it will happen constantly. Mig21, F5, etc. And because of the nerf to loadouts, they effectively have the optimal loadout for grinding bases, and the extra bombs you can bring do nothing but make you slower and make you get less rp/sl/score from bases.
@Sternlos
Mig-23BN has no air to air, and F-111A only has AIM-9Bs.
“But the guns.” on bad airframes.
Bases aren’t the only thing in air RB, so you’re making things up again.
F-5A is slow, and Mig-21SMT isn’t anywhere close to common.
having a gun/gunpods/crappy missiles is still miles ahead of having literally nothing. Just look at the opinions of f117 in ARB, they aren’t good.
Check my Mig-21F-13 stats, zero air kills only bombing.
No where close to the fastest 9.3 for bombing as that goes to Q-5 and F-104.
Again, you’re not playing the game.
The fact you’re comparing B-1B and Mig-23BN to F-117… WOW. That’s wild.
I never brought up F-117.
You were the one that brought them up in the first place? Are you drunk? Your posts are usually much better than this.
You came here ranting about how a supersonic bomber most comparable to F-111A and Mig-23BN can’t be effective.
I never once brought up subsonic aircraft.
This is a suggestion for a SUPERSONIC bomber with 106,000kg of combat weight producing 60,000kgf minimum.
You know what the weight and thrust of the Vark with a combat load is? 33,000kg combat weight producing 16,000kgf of thrust minimum.
And the F-111A is still faster to speed than a number of aircraft around its BR.
The B-1B will be good in air RB, and you’re not required to bomb bases which you should know.
GPS guided bombing the attack line is something you can do from range as well.
There are more gameplay styles than zomb, so please acknowledge them.
I did, you need 25 ground kills to get the same you would as getting a single base, its not worth it. There is a reason everyone rushes to bases, no one is rushing to go kill ground units.
Dude, I get 25 in one pass, and with the B-1B you can take out the entire line in a single pass.
we need this plane
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The +1 variable-wing aircraft is the best.
I seriously hope we can see this come to the game soon. Us B-1B fans really want this in the game as a near top tier heavy hitting bomber after the B-52 in the tech tree. And hopefully we can see the B-1A as an event vehicle.
Like I said a while ago:
Massive +1.
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U.S.A. mains want to use this in ground to nuke the enemy spawn.
I’d want Tu-160 for the same reason.
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both would be effective
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I’d kill to see the B-1B in the TT (end-of-line after the F-15E probably) and B-1A as either a prem or event vehicle.
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yes please.
make sure it also gets all its cruise missiles too
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Next Nuclear Thudner 2 Prize!
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i hope, i hope…
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