Going to 9.3 is a death sentence. You can’t fight 10.3 russia and now sit at the same br as the ztz96 which is supperior in every way. But hey, its brits, its meant to be overteired.
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When vastly inferior Soviet tanks were 9.0 alongside them.
ZTZ-96 is under-BR’d as well.
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vastly inferior soviet tanks?
You are looking at the T62m-1? Which is as fast as the chieftan 900, similar rounds, better optics, and far better armor at the cost of gun depression. Relevant, yes, but with 1/2+ your games being city i’d take a T62m-1 over the chifetan 900 in any urban environment.
The mk10 has more armor, but at the cost of all of its speed (literally the slowest tank at the br). It also has holes all over its armor and dies to HE to the turret or autocannons to the ufp due to the drivers hatch.
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T-62M-1 has worse mobility, gun handling, gun depression and reload.
Both have little to no armor against darts.
Chieftain Mk10 trades a bit of it’s mobility to get a workable armor, even against darts at it’s BR.
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They would be fine if they didn’t face T-80UD every match at 9.3 (I did a chunk of the event with a 9.3 lineup just for the Buc S2 but got fed up of the constant uptiers)
Move the T-80UD to 10.7+, and then fix the outstanding reports for the Chieftain mk10/900 such as engine buffs, correct shell, armour fixes and maybe a tweaked RoF and it will be just fine. Especially as our supporting lineup at 9.3 is actually okay (like the Buc S2 and Hunter FGA9 for aircraft), VFM5 for another light tank, etc. Just kinda wish the Rapier was 9.3
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than a chieftain 900? dont think so mate
the issue is that you move it up by 0.3 and most things quickly defeat stillbrew
same hp/t and 15t less weight? Having played both, they have the same mobility. ‘gun handling’ is extremely subjective stat on a stab tank with both having traverse close to each other. reload is half a sec difference, about as close as you can get. Depression is the only stat the chieftan is significantly better, but the T62 does get 10 pen, a better hull, and a smaller profile. In no way are the differences between the two worthy of a br increase.
Yup, the chieftan mk10 is a sidegrade that trades one thing for another. Yet somehow deserves a higher br? Its not like the armor is comprehensive either, look at the turret ring.
Hell, when talking about armor look at the chieftan 900’s right side turret cheek. you aren’t just weak to darts, you are weak to everything from 300 pen HEAT up.
Lol.
Lmao, even.
are you going to have an actual comment or just post trash? Having a minimum 7x optic is not good for any sort of of fighting under 50m and is rather frustrating to play with. 3.5x is significantly better since both scale to 8x max.
Overall mobility should be slightly better, yes.
Turret cheeks have enough armor to defeat 400mm rounds, which are pretty common at 9.3.
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You have a 1-10x commander pano with full commander authority, if you need FOV with a great zoom range for scanning, use that.
If you’re firing at a point where you cannot physically aim at 8x, you shouldn’t be using your optic.
roof scrapes are actually quite doable and theres always the tried and true breech thunder meta.
the only times its a tough nut to crack is when people are being very conservative in a hull down position. playing a tank right doesnt make it OP its just skill gapping the lobby
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It still is better, especially on the Mk10.
FYI, 3BM21 is objectively worse than 3BM28 so I’d advise you to think this through.
Hull that matters little against darts, as usual.
Sidegrade to Chieftain 900.
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Yes, you have around 5 pixels to aim at in order to kill gunner and commander. Difference between these two against 400mm darts is clear as day.
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Roof, turret ring, and upper hull aren’t resistant to 400 pen darts at all. Most not even to 330 pen darts, meaning you only have a band of the turret resistant. But you pay for that with the slowest movement of any 9.0. by a LOT.
‘5 pixels’ meaning a hatch area the size of a tiger 1H’s cupola. Ok man, if you can’t hit that, no weak point is weak for you.
You are comparing the durability of two tanks with wildly differing mobility, so yeah, the slower one is more armored.
The chieftank mk10 sits at 1.3kdr. The 900 sits at 1.7. Meanwhile the obj 279 sits at 2.1 and isn’t going up. This bullshit is why people call russian bias.
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youve actually got a very good area from periscope sight to cupola to do it. shooting breech usually takes one too.
that soviet tank used as a comparison is disingenuous as we both know a lot of that gren is a volumetric void or doesnt cripple
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They actually are to some, which is ironically the one you tried to use as an excuse where you said “it has 10 more pen”.
Yes and you miss you aren’t really doing any damage.
People that don’t understand the difference between Mk10 and 279, like you.
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Never experienced that when shooting at it.
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Lol… ‘i didn’t hit the weak point so i’m not doing damage, must be a strong vehicle’.
The difference between two armor-dependent tanks… one with a 1.3kdr and one with a 2.1kdr. That there are differences is irrelevant when one puts up wildly better stats.
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Have you considered the fact that the 279 is quite rare and played by experienced players?
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