This isn’t me giving my opinion on who should get it. But this argument is very, very poorly thought-out.
You would lose the entirety of cold-war west Germany as they all use L7 derived guns until the Leopard 2. The L7 105mm cannon is a British cannon, you can find it in every Leopard 1 in the German tree but the L/44 premium, both modernised M-48’s and every TAM in-game.
Smin even said something like this a few times, some nations will have gaps where others will not.
I understand your concern, however I don’t believe nations should be held back because other tech trees lack, individuals have the choice to play a tree with the up gunned vehicles.
I mean you know if you guys want the Challenger 130 just because a German company put the gun in it therefore it’s a German manufactured tank then kindly give the Swiss Hunter to the British tree (we built it) and stop asking for the Swiss F/A-18 (It’s American) and the Polish F-16 (Also American). Also I guess the SK-105 should be given to Fr*nce because Austria isn’t in the game.
No one asked for the Swiss Hunter for Germany. And are you suggesting that the SA Gripen should go to Sweden?
Aren’t you the guy who’s always asking for vehicles from Commonwealth nations even if Britain has nothing to do with them?
Actually the Gripen should go to a ZA tech tree. It’s definitely more fleshed out that Israel ever will be.
Yes.
Actually it was suggested as one of the options in suggestion thread.
Going by the poll in the Swiss Hunter thread, yes that is what that poll would indicate. (However SA is at this point a sub-tree)
Yes, and it was one of the least voted for options
So Britain should have no top tier jet then?
SA is a subtree for britain and vehicles are prefferably under the flag that used it. So i dont see any reason to change it.
30% of the non swiss and non-“other” votes.
Most in that thread said it should go to a Swiss tree or Swiss subtree.
And it’s for the same reason that Britain got a SA subtree that German players are asking for a subtree too; to fill gaps in the tech tree. Be that with Argentina, Switzerland, or some other nation.
Which constituted a grand total of… seven votes…
This is OT anyway.
Yes, there werent a lot of votes total.
so it was a challenger 2 turret base too i imagine
i mean, nobody debated that part
Yea… Im sure i can find a few. Too bad i cant be bothered ;)
its a slightly/heavy modified challenger turret thats realy not debatable, any blind guy realy sees that
those who debate that point realy dont know what they are talking about
The affilation is questionable with the recent article and interview with the rheinmetall ceo.
But not that it used a chally base
Since the UK got the Vickers mark 7
I think its fair the germans get this.
Vickers mark 7
-private venture
-german hull
-new turret with british gun
-UK tech tree
Rheinmetall 130mm demonstrator
-private venture
-british hull
-new turret and german gun
-should go to german tech tree.
It is the same turret used on the Challenger 3 LEP just gun was changed and mockup cheek armour . This turret is also a modified Challenger 2 turret anyway
Unlike the Vickers mk7 this isnt an export venture but a show off a new gun on a prototype that they were already working on
The tank has always been RBSL and British MOD property
This tank wasn’t a British or RBSL project though, it was strictly a Rheinmetall project. BAE is involved in the CR2 130 in the same way KMW was involved in the Vickers Mk7, they allowed the use of a Leopard 2 chassis. What made the Vickers Mk7 interesting was the turret, which was of British design.
It’s the same here, the only thing that makes this Challenger interesting is the gun/autoloader system, which is German, and is for a German program (MGCS).
I’m fine with it going to Britain, but only if it also comes to the country that actually made it.
+1, idk for who