Because of a thing called “Export”
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this should be in the British tech tree because they really do need something like this, they have nothing else going for them
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But they didn’t think of that.
was meant as a sales pitch thats why they used a cr 2 hull. But britain went for what is now CR 3 instead
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This is based upon a british tank with a german gun made by an anglo german compnay(RBSL). Both Germany and Britian have a claim to this tank hence we have allowed it to be suggested in both sections.
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as a german main myself, absolutely fine with that thing going to the UK techtree. after all it’s Challenger based and would end the Chally line perfectly.
We can still get the KF-51 or the swiss 140mm Leo 2
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Edit; was in response to someone raging over me saying that brit deserves this not germany.
Lol, what? I don’t have top-tier Britain; I don’t play Britain at all. It’s just that Britain needs more good MBTs. Germany has WAY more options when it comes to bigger caliber guns, so why should one of the few options that they have go to Germany?
You are also forgetting that it’s using the Challenger 2 hull with all british parts. This is deserves to be in the german tree as much as the challaner 3 (p), which is not at all.
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dont forget the german leo 2-140
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we still need actual sources for that one… not much is known, thats the issue. hence why i think the Swiss one fits better :D
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Since it’s not in service and is made by an Anglo-Germanic company I say both can have it.
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that pic is my issue. there are no other angles making it quite hard to make a 3D model.
also that thing never really passed through system integration, i mean… its mounted on a Leopard 1 hull, prob as a carrier vehiecle like we used the M48 hulls for 2A0/1/2 turrets (see pick below)
True but it wouldnt come with the debate of which nation gets switzerland as a sub tree, because apparently thats still a hot topick.
Regarding the panzer 87-140 here is a good pic of the dart.
https://www.armeemuseum.ch/thuner-schiessplatz-anekdoten-rueckschau/
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i was looking for a pic of it cheers a lot mate
oh the everlasting bi**hfight… i just want these vehiecles ingame.
Yes i am a german main (because i actually served so it has some merit) but i have researched nearly ALL techtrees… i could give a rats behind about where they place them.
imo if KF-51 goes to the italian techtree cuz hungary wants to build it:
France: leclerc terminateur t4 (140mm)
Russia: object 195 (152mm)
or Objekt 292 (T-80 with 152)
USA Thumper (140mm)
Or CATTB
Germany: Swiss RUAG Pz87-140
Italy: Hungary KF-51 (130)
UK: RBSL 130mm Demonstrator on Challanger 2 (130)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1060606270765289524/1183477239816405054/EegVEVhWkAIWhbh.jpg?ex=65887a11&is=65760511&hm=6c4d75a30185df698e56f2d9ae4d09436d900dbed92f71dff2ab351937b3d07a&
did i miss any large cal gun project?
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Japan got non ;D but then again i doubt korea or japan ever built a protype or testbed with a 130mm gun or larger.
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yea i dount really like counting paper vehicles, if there is a wave of large caliber guns id rather only have those added that atleast had 1 or 2 prototypes.
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so i guess i didnt miss any… eyyyy go me :D
well… bend me over and call me lucy… bugger :D only ever saw the static testbed :D
That is not a 140 its a 120 from even the image there “avec 120” with 120. It is to test a fitting for 140 but end of the day its a chief with a 120