Revising the Rate of Fire of the T-64, T-80, Т-72, ZTZ96, ZTZ99 Series and VT4, VT4A1 Tanks

Only one question. Why did Chinese MBTs receive such a weak buff? According to all indicators, these are the worst MBTs in the game. They don’t have any good characteristics. And according to all indicators, they are either average or below average. As a result, even on websites for reading statistics, their KD rates are on par with tanks of other nations, which are used for 2-3 respawn. Why are they getting a ridiculous buff to 6.7/7.0 seconds of reload? They should be given at least 6.5, and preferably 6.0, like Soviet tanks. Because even so, they will still be worse.

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I did, even knowing its respective handicap :)




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And I know I’m not the sharpest ground player in the playerpool, but it sucks knowing my vehicles could be a fraction better if I invest another million into all of them.

Check my reply above, i alr asked the forum manager exactly about this.

To be fair, the M1 and Leo 2A4 are generally both listed by good players as the shared best MBT at 10.7.

So I don’t think either is really worse than the other, more like sidegrades.

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Your question is wrong, becose your forget. Like all another in this theme.

Reloading its balanching characteristics. For buff or nerfed they dont need notning. If need they can made BVM 1 sec Reload.

I used to hold the same opinion, but nowadays M1 just does more for me. Most importantly, it doesnt have that stupid safety limitation for gun depression over the back. And being able to outreload most oponents also help.

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Gaijin when you report a vehicle not having realistic reload: RoF is a Balance factor!

Gaijin when they buff Soviet vehicles:
Here‘s all the research we went through to show it should actually be like this!

Gaijin when some western weapon system is too good: We decided to implement the way we think it should be.

😂

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true !

since when did the leopards suffer in this game? Did i miss a update or something because for me they always been the most dominant tanks in this game for years and still are

So where was the balance when KH38s got introduced… where was the balance when DIRCM/LDIRCM got introduced (still massively over performing btw and bugged but still adds it into the game) where was the balance when Brimstones got introduced… oh wait they did balance that and gave it the worst implementation possible while ignoring the pure dominance at the time of KH38s :D

I get reloading is and can be used for balance but balance is long gone out of this game so to be frank that argument just doesnt hold any proof now

T58 premium, Vikhrs all but killing Heli EC for 4 years because they couldnt be bothered to balance them correctly or implement them properly

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I still have better stats in my 2A4NL than in my M1 iirc.

They are pretty much equal overall with some small gameplay differences. Neither of them is particularly well armored or survivable unless the enemy is completely braindead (I can almost one shot both of them with my eyes closed), both have incredible mobility and gun handling.

Difference is 2A4 has better pen/post pen while the M1 has better reload.

It’s just struck me
Why have the devs done independent research on buffing Russian based tanks instead of making the game more playable
Why are they independently looking into making Russian tanks better
Why did they independently look into making some other tanks worse (turret baskets, blow out panels) which coincidentally have not or do not effect Russian based vehicles EXCEPT the BMPT, that’s an odd case as it’s “external belts” whilst being inside the tank but they don’t kill the vehicle when they explode like other blow out panels
Curious isn’t it

I’m not saying I’m opposed to devs doing research in their own time as well chances are they are also quite interested in technology and such but there are so many glaring issues with vehicles they have elected not to research and they have not fixed them

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sure, but does it reach some important treshold, ie. does the extra pen allow it to pen a weakspot M774 is unable to?

Not arguing about post-pen, that is obviously better for L/44.

Rules for thee but not for me is gaijins motto, dont you know?

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they make a lot of money
there, solved it for you
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fifth most played ground vehicle IN THE ENTIRE GAME
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people really underestimate how much money rules this game

When the devs said autoloader reloads are such for balancing purposes they meant that they are aware that they’re supposed lower, and that they SHOULD be fixed, but they will hold off on making those changes for balance reasons.

They made the change to just the T-80/64 for now. Chinese autoloaders just got a baseline reload buff because as it says they already had faster reloads due to their own upgrades, also because China is a C-rank country at best, so they needed the buff.

You’re being dramatic, they make things as historically accurate as possible while keeping it relatively fun for everyone. That is all considering their colossal work backlog in historical issues…

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You’re documentation and research is incorrect once again, Gaijin. You’re completely right, Chinese tanks have a improved autoloader.

You know what doesn’t?

The MZ autoloader. Here’s actual documentation on the T-80’s reload time.

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Due to the nature of the system, (correction: SOME) carousel autoloaders should reload slower as they expend more shells, 7.1 seconds goes up to 19 as more shells are expent.

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Oh, they dont care realism… Its “biasbalance”.

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This takes into account only the old T-80B and T-72 “Ural” Pre-production autoloaders, they’ve been upgraded since, including in T-80BV which it is in-game. In the first case you are right, because old versions used vacuum tubes and could only turn counter-clockwise and could only begin selecting the round AFTER firing which yes, led to THOSE reloads you see.

In this case the round is being pre-selected by the commander, entirely skipping the entire spin cycle as it happens before the firing sequence. The reload sequence starts immediately as the firing sequence ends.

Same principle is in T-72/T-90/ZTZ/VT-4, they’re just seemingly being careful and holding off making those changes, at least right now.

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